jonnyGURU Forums
Home Site Search Reviews Articles Contest Links PSU FAQs  


Go Back   jonnyGURU Forums > Computer Software > The Gaming Forum

The Gaming Forum Discuss computer and console games and gaming here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-08-2012
buppus buppus is offline
200W User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Virtualize Steam/TF2 installation to keep Windows Clean?

I am of the belief that Steam #vĒ|<'s up your Windows registry and bogs the computer down upon installation, so I want to know if there's a way to virtualize it?

To clarify, I want to install Steam/TF2 on my secondary HDD [D:], but without touching my new SSD Windows7x64 installation on [C:]

Since I have not found a way to make Steam portable, I thought maybe something like Sandboxie (application virtualization/sandboxing) might help, but I don't know how to get it to write to [D:] without affecting [C:]

Any thoughts?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-08-2012
jonnyGURU's Avatar
jonnyGURU jonnyGURU is offline
Site Founder
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: jonnyGURU forums, of course!
Posts: 10,696
Thanks: 149
Thanked 206 Times in 145 Posts
Default

For the most part, Steam just uses up a lot of RAM. If you have plenty of RAM, you shouldn't experience any problems.
__________________
We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. -- Douglas Adams
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-08-2012
EVGA Phaedrus EVGA Phaedrus is offline
200W User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 42
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Steam doesn't really mess with the registry.

Know what messes the registry up more? People who worry about the registry too much and use registry cleaners as if they're a magic go-fast program.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-08-2012
buppus buppus is offline
200W User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I have 16GB of DDR3 2133, and the idea is to keep programs from writing to the registry in the first place - I dont use registry cleaners.

All I know is that the computers I set up are incredibly fast and efficient until Steam gets installed... then they run like crap.

Any input on virtualization?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-09-2012
Phaedrus2129's Avatar
Phaedrus2129 Phaedrus2129 is offline
Flux Capacitor User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,030
Thanks: 1
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Default

The registry has absolutely nothing to do with your RAM... nothing.
__________________
It's my PSU in a box!
Ooo-ooh,
My PSU in a box, baby!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-09-2012
jonnyGURU's Avatar
jonnyGURU jonnyGURU is offline
Site Founder
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: jonnyGURU forums, of course!
Posts: 10,696
Thanks: 149
Thanked 206 Times in 145 Posts
Default

Yeah.. I don't know why you're having issues. I've installed Steam on my laptop, desktop.... never had it slow down my PC.
__________________
We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. -- Douglas Adams
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-09-2012
buppus buppus is offline
200W User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I'm not saying the registry has anything to do with RAM, just responding to the post above by making it clear that I have plenty of it.

It's a subtle change, but it seems to be progressive over time. It noticeably slows down the computer after a while (like months). I like the fresh-out-of-the-box startup and near instant response, and I know the steam registry entry is big and ugly.

Like I said, I'm going for a lean windows install - not wanting to bog it down with ANYTHING - I'm running all portable apps, and trying to figure out how to virtualize anything that can't be run portably from my secondary drive.


EDIT: What if I made a backup of my entire current Steam folder, moved it to [D:], then install it sandboxed on the new system? Does that sound like it would work?

Last edited by buppus; 03-09-2012 at 02:15 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-09-2012
Shadowww Shadowww is offline
1kW User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 192
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnyGURU View Post
For the most part, Steam just uses up a lot of RAM. If you have plenty of RAM, you shouldn't experience any problems.


Approximately 3 days since login, and few hours of gameplay without Steam restarts. Can't see how that's "a lot of RAM" when even Skype uses 10 times more.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-09-2012
McSteel's Avatar
McSteel McSteel is offline
Naughty
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: North Disturbia
Posts: 1,454
Thanks: 18
Thanked 92 Times in 72 Posts
Default

Love your username in windows.
__________________
Careful what you wish for... You just might get it.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-09-2012
Oklahoma Wolf's Avatar
Oklahoma Wolf Oklahoma Wolf is online now
Moderator of Silly Walks
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Moderator
Posts: 5,655
Thanks: 36
Thanked 127 Times in 77 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowww View Post
Approximately 3 days since login, and few hours of gameplay without Steam restarts. Can't see how that's "a lot of RAM" when even Skype uses 10 times more.
My install uses a mite more than that...

Even so, it isn't Steam making this system slow to get going, it's all the other stuff. I don't mind as long as it stays speedy when it gets to the desktop - this rig runs 24/7.

2500K with 16GB DDR3.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Image1.jpg
Views:	123
Size:	60.1 KB
ID:	1687  
__________________
My storm chasing images: theweatherwolf.zenfolio.com
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.