Stacker 810 with 850W Real Power Pro?

[HeyItsBattleKid]

I just signed up today but I use this site as my number 1 reference for power supply reviews, thanks for the great reviews jonny . I normally go to tomshardware (pokemon is my username there), but I think having a forum dedicated to a certain aspect of the computer is much more helpful. Here the combo I'm looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119145

I'm really wanting to get a nice full tower case without flushing out my budget on a case. I'm currently looking at a Cooler Master RC 690 with a Seasonic S12 650W. I really would like to go the full tower route because I tend to get addicted to modding and plan on having the computer for some time. I figure the full tower will also help with overall cooling seeing as I plan to do processor and graphics card overclocking. Here is my current setup I'm working on getting:

SLACR Q6600
Gigabyte P35 DS3L
G Skill (2x2GB)x2 for 8GB
eVGA 9600GT
Seasonic S12 650W
ThermalRight Ultra Extreme
Yate Loon x9
Zalman MFC1 Plus
Seagate 500GB 7200.11 + 250GB ES.2
HT Omega Striker
(Lots of editing )

I know the ol' stereotype "Don't use the power supply that comes with the case" but after reading the review on the 1000W variant, it seems as if it could hold up quite well. I know it might not be the Seasonic I've got lined up. For about $30 more, however, I can upgrade to a full tower case. I also realize that being the neat freak I can be, I'm going to want to cable manage as much as I can, which means having ample lengths of cable from the power supply. I know both the Real Power Pro and the Seasonic have 500mm lengths for their ATX power, but is that enough? Any advice would be awesome! Thanks a lot you guys!

[HOOfan_1]

that Coolermaster Power Supply is good to go. Seasonic PSUs are overpriced.

[HeyItsBattleKid]

I've just had someone tell me that the Real Power Pro is a borderline tier3/tier 4 product, and as long as I don't use more than 700W, I should be fine. I usually stick with in-depth reviews like jonny's got going because then I know they actually care about the results and there is less room for bias. I just have a feeling he's reading some of the most random reviews, and isn't giving credit, where credit is due. IDK, you guys tell me!

[HOOfan_1]

whoever told you the realpower pro isn't capable is blowing smoke up your ass. BTW there is no "official" tier system, so tier 3 is possibly a good thing

here is an indepth review done with a load tester and ripple readings
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/538

[HeyItsBattleKid]

I think the kid has a habit of simply regurgitating what he read. I think he is referring to Perkam's thread on Xtremesystems about Tier'd power supplies. jonnyGURU did put the Real Power Pro in his list of gaming power supplies. My guess is the 850W is almost identical with the 1000W variant. I believe they both have the same number of rails which is a start.

I think I'm convinced this power supply will work fine. I'm not a fan of swapping out a power supply half way through my computer's life so I guess if I were to decide on something with longer cables or what have you, I would want to do that before I put it all together. The corsair TX750 has very long cables, but I'm gonna first see if the Real Power's cable length will present any problems. Thanks for all the help thus far!

[HOOfan_1]

Well see the review I linked....but with that system you listed you won't pull anywhere near 700 Watts anyway.

[HeyItsBattleKid]

I guess this would have always been nice to have as I've never stumbled upon it. Is there a good article of some sort that will tell me what components draw what power at idle and load? I've always had to really on some persons Kill-a-watt reading to kinda of estimate from.

I remember reading that article but couldn't find it again when looking back at some reviews. I've just never heard of 88% efficiency on any power supply! I'm guessing they my load their power supplies different than other reviewers. Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to add that site to my list of good review sites. I think someone should get a list like that up on the forums at Toms.

I also wanted to ask if there is any info, related to any power supply for starters, on reliability over time. I sold TV's last year and one thing that gets brought up almost every time, is the a TV's reliability. Do the components inside affect how long its going to last? Though Cooler Master have similar specs to maybe an Enermax, but does it last as long as an Enermax on average? I really have no idea if power supplies have this reliability issue or not but I figured it might be something cool to know.

Well, I think most of my doubts are gone now and I think I can "worry" about other aspects of my build. One question I did have though, and I'm not sure if maybe there is a better set of forums for this kind of question, but I'm sure many of the members here are more than qualified to answer questions regarding case cooling. Seeing as how I'm going with the Stacker 810, I figure I might as well get some ideas out of my head. I was planning to have a 4 vs 4 fan setup, 4 intake, 4 exhaust.

Currently the case has two rear 120mm fans a space for a top 80mm and 1 120mm intake in its 4in3 module. I was planning on fitting two more 120mm fans above the 4in3 module (I'll be making my own fastening method seeing as $20 doesn't seem worth it just to mount the fan) which would leave me with 2 slots for a DVD drive and my Zalman fan controller. I'm also looking at filling the bottom with either an intake or exhaust (simply because exhaust out the bottom may be beneficial for cooling the hard drives.

For exhaust, I would look into modding the top panel for two 120mm fans. Ideally, I want all these fans to be somewhat silent, but thats what a fan controller is for so I can fine tune it. Essentially this should create a kind of air-made wind tunnel that goes from the bottom-front to the top-back. This should allow for the most efficient way for air to quickly go in and quickly out. Obviously this is all just a kind of theory but I'm up for playing around with the actually setup and see what works.

I'm not sure if there is a section for cooling on this forum but I don't want to hog up any extra thread space. I wish they just had a Cooler Master Stacker community that just exchanged ideas and results.

HOOfan, thanks a lot for the help! I'll be looking forward to seeing how the power supply performs (and proving some people wrong as well )

[HOOfan_1]

LOL at Enermax....there has been an unusually high number of their PSUs failing after a year now so I don't know if I would use them as a benchmark for how long a PSU should last. But reviews only test new units and only test them for a day or so, I think I have seen some project out there where they were running various PSUs at various loads for months on end, but I can't remember where.

If you look around on Hardware Secrets they give a list of sites that give reliable reviews or use load testers. Or just keep checking Jonnyguru.com as the mods post up several reviews every day from around the internet from reliable sites and then those reviews are often discussed in here. You have sites like HardwareCanucks, HardOCP, Driver Heaven, X-bit.

anandtech's forums are broken down into CPU/Overclocking, PSU, Memory/Storage, Cases/Cooling, Videocards and many many other sections and there are some pretty knowledgeable people there. There are here of course, but the PSU section is the only one that sees any real traffic. (tomshardware is kind of a 4 letter word to some here ) although I find the site to have some very helpful tools.

[HeyItsBattleKid]

I agree, its over crowded by post reading gurus that can tell you something someone else said, who said something someone else said, etc. There are a few good members/mods, but lots of clingers. Wusy always seems to have a good answer if you can get a hold of him.

I'm trying to use anandtech forums for some stuff, mainly looking at selling a laptop, but might as well use the forums for some reading and modding stuff. I'm going to try AutoCADing my setup so I can occupy myself with lay out and such.

lol, I don't know why I used enermax, I'm more of a Seasonic guy myself but enermax is a second favorite, just brand preference I guess.

[spursindonesia]

Umm, don't CM Real Power PRO lines stop at 750w ? The 850w and 1000w are just called Real Power, and made by different OEM (Enhance) vs Acbel in the former, lower rated Real Power lines with PRO tag name. CMIIW.