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I still don't get the naming. Hydro is conencting to water/fluids. I don't want to have those in my PSU.
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I still don't get the naming. Hydro is conencting to water/fluids. I don't want to have those in my PSU.
Here in Canada at least Hydro Is 'slang' for power, electricity. Not quite sure where the phrase was coined, but I could imagine it being from Hydroelectric power plants.

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I still don't get the naming. Hydro is conencting to water/fluids. I don't want to have those in my PSU.
Probably they just wanted a name that will make the PSU noticable, regardless if it makes sense or not.
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Wait... So it's 230V 80 Plus Bronze? So it didn't pass regular 80 Plus Bronze. So it's an 80 Plus White with a marketing twist. Nice.

People, this is the antithesis of a PSU passing 80 Plus Silver but the manufacturer putting a Bronze sticker on the box "just in case". What a shame.
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But the 230V certificates have higher standards than the universal certificates, not lower. A 230V 80+ Bronze unit must do 85-88-85, while an universal 80+ White must only do 80-80-80. A universal 80+ Bronze is 82-85-82.
A 230V 80+ Bronze is quite a pinch higher than both universal White and Bronze, even considering the fact that PSUs usually achieve higher efficiency on the higher input voltage.
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Indeed higher efficiency, that's why I hope/think it's a downgraded version of Hydro X with individual voltage regulation.

Voltage regulation looks OK.
http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu...155_Report.pdf
http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu...156_Report.pdf
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The Hydro X is quite beefy on the inside on this mark: https://youtu.be/dAimRm_pD98?t=130

While this is what the Hydro 230V Bronze looks like inside:

- corresponds with the Hyper platform, except it has a proper bridge rectifier instead of four conventional diodes.
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The Hydro X is quite beefy on the inside on this mark: https://youtu.be/dAimRm_pD98?t=130
That's Hydro G.
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While this is what the Hydro 230V Bronze looks like inside:

- corresponds with the Hyper platform, except it has a proper bridge rectifier instead of four conventional diodes.
Where do I look at?
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Yes, right - meant to link this video: https://youtu.be/ojRFK1dEifg?t=90

Do you mean the bridge rectifier or the whole image? The bridge is on the middle-left, right between the fan blades. If the whole image is not displaying for you, try the direct link: http://i.imgur.com/vVxbgXA.jpg?1
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But the 230V certificates have higher standards than the universal certificates, not lower. A 230V 80+ Bronze unit must do 85-88-85, while an universal 80+ White must only do 80-80-80. A universal 80+ Bronze is 82-85-82.
A 230V 80+ Bronze is quite a pinch higher than both universal White and Bronze, even considering the fact that PSUs usually achieve higher efficiency on the higher input voltage.
They're a pinch higher because it's easier to get those numbers with a 230VAC input. One of the most difficult or most expensive aspects of getting a PSU to pass higher efficiency levels is actually on the input side. More specifically, the primary switcher's losses. Simple little "tricks" like using a in-rush current relay for the power switch or the integrated transient filtering like the Delta AC input modules are just enough to go from one level of efficiency to another at lower input voltages. Higher input voltages is lower current and on a full range unit can make a HUGE difference in efficiency depending on the parts used.
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