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Default New mainboard/processor/memory time.

It looks like my mainboard in my main system (system 1 in my sig) is dead. Any suggestions for a good, but affordable, replacement mainboard, processor, and memory? I'd like to keep it under $500, even less if possible. I just graduated from my undergrad program and am starting my Masters program this week, and need to save some on this.

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Do any of these look worth the money? I generally prefer full ATX boards. Also, would any of them have better audio than my Audigy 2 ZS Platinum? Or would I be better off still using it, even as old as it is?

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Do any of these look worth the money? I generally prefer full ATX boards. Also, would any of them have better audio than my Audigy 2 ZS Platinum? Or would I be better off still using it, even as old as it is?

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Pretty much all of them are decent boards with good specs.
None of them will have BETTER audio than the old audigy, but they won't be terrible. Assuming you'll be installing an OS for which audigy drivers exist, it'll be better than an onboard, but you may only have 1 slot to put it in.

I kind of like the offer with the Corsair 750w and the Asrock extreme board, but I like the extreme boards from Asrock.
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Okay, looks good to me. I'm using Windows 7 home premium, and the Daniel K drivers. Will be ordering in a few days, hopefully.

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Before I order in a couple of days, are there any other suggestions?

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You know the drill...what are your goals?
Low wattage? Multi-core priority or single process speed priority? Gaming or photo editing? etc. etc. etc.

While bundle deals are great, if you have specific goals, they are limiting.

If you want high OC capability, you obviously have to go with a K series processor.

If you are not planning on OC and want max Hyper-Threading and VM ability at the lowest price you can go XEON.

I'd go with the ivy bridge(very little improvement with Haswell, at higher price and reduced MB availability)
Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 69W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80637E31230V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117286

You get 8 core hyperthreading, Full VM support and up to 3.7GHZ for $234.

You can most any $100 Z77 MB (check to make sure but I think Asrock, gigabyte and asus)
EDIT checked shows on cpu list
ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157297

$95

see comment thread for details

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117286

GREAT 16 GB 1866 true CAS 9 $130 after promo code
Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Gaming Memory Model BLT2KIT8G3D1869DT1TX0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148740
+ $23 off w/ promo code 0813BTS27, limited offer...not showing on detail screen for some reason...

Call it $460 all in.

Of course I would put that extra $40 in a Gold rated PSU. All that low voltage Intel goodness really deserves it.

Rosewill CAPSTONE-450 450W Continuous @ 50C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD, ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92, SLI/CrossFire Ready, Active PFC Power Supply


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182066

At $60 would only put you $20 over budget.

The seasonic at $65 would run your rig too but would limit you somewhat on future graphics card updates(If you want to go large)

SeaSonic SSR-360GP 360W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151117


Finally if you think 3.7 Turbo isn't enough for your gaming needs, all of the above is applicable, you just need to swap out for a K Chip.
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

At $220 you gain the ability to OC, but loose 8 core hyper-threading. (some cache also..6 vs 8) Some VM capability, but gain a IGP.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116504

So just depends on your applications needs (gaming vs rendering/work loads).

Don't think you will find a better quality bundle (they almost always throw in something you don't need or want...that's always the catch on the great price)

Final edit: Two item bundles have some pretty decent deals...Two items that you definitely need.
For example if you go the K route, you obviously have a shed load of MB bundle options.

For example.

$310 AMIR

Shaves $20 off the xenon bundle price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...=Combo.1417128

Best Luck.

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Does hyperthreading actually give a noticeable performance difference?

Basically I want something I can do some FPS gaming, some rendering, and will last me through grad school, which I just started.

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rendering yes...10-30% range...not 100%
Gaming = near zero.

Intel Chips MHZ OC easy to 4..and above ...but of course high clocks on CPU only augment, cannot replace GPU power.

Consequently, many hardcore gamers go even lower on the CPU and spend more money on the new graphics card...

But you didn't mention that in the budget (you can't squeeze $200 out of the cpu and MB/memory cost)

Just gave you my best bang for the buck for the budget...you can squeeze out $20 here and there...but with diminishing returns of money for big drops in performance... just like the diminishing returns of performance for huge increases in money going toward the high end.

Edit: JMHO...maybe others can do better.
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Honestly, I'm happy with my 6870, so I'm just looking to replace what's needed. Given that my PSU is 4.5 years old, I'd like to replace it, too.

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First gen hyperthreading was about a 10% boost per core, these days, it's more like 50% per real core. Obviously the results depend entirely on the relative thread loading. For gaming, hyperthreading has zero benefit unless you're running a lot of background tasks.
For rendering, you will find a benefit, but you may well find more results by trading in the 6870 for a more modern GPU and offloading the render to that.
I've seen some major discounted GTX580s on the market over here, and those things are rendering power houses.
A non-HT quad plus a top end GPU will often outperform an HT equipped quad with a lower end GPU.
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