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A friend is looking for suggestions for a gaming build. Her budget is up to $1000USD, but that needs to include Windows. Any suggestions? I've been out of the building loop long enough to be unaware of what is good for the money currently.

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Assuming the CPU won't be overclocked, this is what I'd consider:

$239,99 Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 69W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80637E31230V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117286

$289,99 SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202006

$74,99 MSI B75A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...irtualParent=1

$74,99 Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...irtualParent=1

$63,99 Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148544

$79,99 SeaSonic SSR-450RM 450W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151124

$17,99 LG 24X DVD Burner - Bare Drive 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS95 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136259

$44,99 ZALMAN Z5 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811235037

$99,99 Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832416550

= $986,91
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$986,91
+ $8.65 shipping for the psu
= $995.56

Going for the SSR-550RM with free shipping would add $1.35 to that
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I didn't notice it, thanks for pointing that out
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Windows 7 Home Premium OEM goes on sale around $80, all about preference.
Not a serious concern,
I do not know the advantage of a Xeon processor over a consumer one.
I5 3570K is $220 and includes video function, overclocking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116504
I5 3350P $180 no video
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116782

She might like to choose her computer case, or at least indicate preference.
Search sales for discounts.

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/482...3-1230_v2.html
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Xeon E3-1230V2 is basically an i7-3770 with no IGP and 100MHz lower clock; it's far cheaper too. It won't make a big difference in current games, though Xeon might be a bit more futureproof because of Hyper Threading. There wasn't really anything else to spend the leftover cash on anyway IMHO.

@Original Sin: If it's going to be overclocked - yes, definitely i5-3570k would be the way to go. The mobo would need to be changed as well.
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It needs an SSD


Also, it's a gaming build... so a 3570K would make a the best choice.
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However, an unlocked chip is pointless in a B75 motherboard. ASRock Z77 Extreme4 is a fantastic Z77 motherboard, especially for it's price.
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SSDs in my understanding can load games faster but do not otherwise contribute.
Size and number of files determine desirability (in my opinion).
Xeon and B75 should be a good build.
Specific games would determine whether the Xeon or an overclocked 3570 would perform better.
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SSDs in my understanding can load games faster but do not otherwise contribute.
Size and number of files determine desirability (in my opinion).
Xeon and B75 should be a good build.
Specific games would determine whether the Xeon or an overclocked 3570 would perform better.
That depends on the game in question. If that game regularly needs to fetch data from storage, then you will definitely see advantages from the game being on SSD. Games that will benefit from this include all MMOs and some shooters, especially those with dynamic map loading, and loads of textures. Having things grind to a halt for a second or so while the game goes hunting for the special limited edition texture the guy coming round the corner is wearing can make a huge difference.

Or go into (major city) of WoW with and without an SSD and watch the difference. It's VAST, people load as quickly as the data packets come in from the server with their gear lists instead of slowly popping into existence over the course of minutes.

In EVE, many top end alliances demand all their space healers and capital ship pilots use an SSD so they can load new areas of space as quickly as possible. Every second counts.

On the cpu front, it depends if your friend plans on clocking. If not, then the xeon (if cheaper than the equivalent 3770) is the way to go. Otherwise the k series i5 is the better choice for the money, but that, as said would need a z77 series board.

On the memory front, 8GB is perfect. I've got 16GB and very, very rarely see memory use going anywhere near 8GB.

Edit: You may find the best use for an SSD on such a build is to use the built in caching hardware in the B75/z77 chipset (along with the associated software) in conjunction with a nice big HDD to put all your data on, and speed up the most used files via a small SSD gives you best response. Alternatively some of the hybrid ssd/hdd drives offer the same benefits without the need for software.
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