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Old 08-18-2018
kran11 kran11 is offline
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i don't understand your meaning in this:
"you won't be able to upgrade it, while it might be possible on the other side."
and admit i don't know what is this:
"the issue with Spectre/Meltdown"
can you please explain?
as i said i'm building totally new pc and will buy items only after geting the most needed info.

and btw you could say the same thing 10 or 20 years ago, and we will still working with a Pentium 2...
but i agree with you that Intel use kind of a tricky policy.
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Old 08-19-2018
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i don't understand your meaning in this:
"you won't be able to upgrade it, while it might be possible on the other side."
I mean that the Intel 9000 series will be the last one you can put in the LGA1151V2 Socket and that for the sucessor of that you will (highly probable) need a new motherboard while it is probable that with Ryzen it is possible that you might be able to use the upcoming 7nm chip that is arriving next year in a Motherboard you can buy today. Though you should get a 400 series higher end with good sales for it to have the possibility of a BIOS Update then.


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and admit i don't know what is this:
"the issue with Spectre/Meltdown"
can you please explain?
It is a security vulnaribility that allows attackers to attack the Hardware of the PC.

The reason for that is the speculative execution of the processor that has no "checks and balances" in place, so every process can exploit the speculative behaviour and acces stuff from other processes. Even if you are not locally on the machine.

And that can be used to spy your passwords. AMD is, from what we know right now, less vulnerable to the attack because they have some kind of checks and balances implemented.

More Information:
https://meltdownattack.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectr..._vulnerability)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltdo..._vulnerability)


And due to the way it works, this problem can only be mitigated but not be fixed.

And there is also this:
https://foreshadowattack.eu

All attacks were shown on Intel Hardware, to my knowledge...

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and btw you could say the same thing 10 or 20 years ago, and we will still working with a Pentium 2...
20 years ago, at the time of the Pentium 2 and 3, you weren't able to seriously use them in your day to day operation 10 years ago.


While you can still use a Core 2 Duo system for many things today...

So the thing is a bit different today, as you can use your Processors longer.
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Old 08-21-2018
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I don't need it enough to even really want it or get it, id wait a little longer imo....I'm happy at 4.8ghz and barely audible loop and the 1060 blocked.
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