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What i care about is very simple:
When you produce a line o PSUs (650/750/850/1200 etc ), and giving this line the same name, for example let us use again the GRAND series, then the average user who doesn't read PSU reviews, he will naturally assume that since the name is the same, then the platform they are based on, is the same as well, with the only difference being, more or less wattage.
That's what logic dictates.
Yeah I agree. But I would edit that to say that an average user would expect the performance and quality to be the same, and not care how it's achieved. For example when buying Seasonic Prime, I just want to have 80+ Titanium, 1% regulation, sub 20mV ripple and durable capacitors (or whatever else), and don't care if it uses one or five platforms, alien technology or other technical details.
For example, Corsair RMx uses two platforms - the 550W&650W one just has one primary cap instead of two. The end result (vreg, ripple, build quality, etc) is the same on all models, so I'm happy. And I agree that it may be misleading in cases like Rosewill Capstone G, where the 850-1200W models achieve worse performance than 750W and lower. The customer isn't expected to know about platforms or internals, he just usually expects all models of the same line to hold the same standard. I think it doesn't matter how this same standard is achieved (multiple platforms or one, etc), it just has to be even across all the units in a line.
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Yeah I agree. But I would edit that to say that an average user would expect the performance and quality to be the same, and not care how it's achieved. For example when buying Seasonic Prime, I just want to have 80+ Titanium, 1% regulation, sub 20mV ripple and durable capacitors (or whatever else), and don't care if it uses one or five platforms, alien technology or other technical details.
For example, Corsair RMx uses two platforms - the 550W&650W one just has one primary cap instead of two. The end result (vreg, ripple, build quality, etc) is the same on all models, so I'm happy. And I agree that it may be misleading in cases like Rosewill Capstone G, where the 850-1200W models achieve worse performance than 750W and lower. The customer isn't expected to know about platforms or internals, he just usually expects all models of the same line to hold the same standard. I think it doesn't matter how this same standard is achieved (multiple platforms or one, etc), it just has to be even across all the units in a line.
If this is feasible then yes, of course, no complaints here as well
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JESUS CHRIST SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT!!!!!

Got sucked into the responses, just like I knew I would.
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Not surprised, TPU comment sections are often mines of ignorance, not just in PSU topics.
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If the layout is identical, than it appears that just the engineering batch from Superflower went to JG and for MP Superflower gave the volume to RSY

That would be totally ok.
Why wouldn't that qualify as a "ringer"? It would seem to me that they should send out for review what they sell.
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God bless the soul over on r/hardware who is trying to calm the masses and educate the villagers.
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I hate people saying that they only buy PSUs from brands who manufacture them. I really hate it and I've already had that discussion more than once
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I hate people saying that they only buy PSUs from brands who manufacture them. I really hate it and I've already had that discussion more than once
Brand doesn't matter, just check the OEM.
Just get anything from the best OEMs: Seasonic and Super Flower.
Don't buy from non-OEM brands, they don't design the PSU at all, all of them just take a ready design off the shelf of the OEM and slap their label on it. All of them.
For a high-end PC get 80+ Gold or better for enhanced quality and reliability.
Get a PSU with about 50% overhead for less stress and quieter operation.
Keep a PSU at half load to save money from highest efficiency.
Most important things in a PSU are active PFC, efficiency and modular cables.


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Brand doesn't matter, just check the OEM.
Just get anything from the best OEMs: Seasonic and Super Flower.
Don't buy from non-OEM brands, they don't design the PSU at all, all of them just take a ready design off the shelf of the OEM and slap their label on it. All of them.
For a high-end PC get 80+ Gold or better for enhanced quality and reliability.
Get a PSU with about 50% overhead for less stress and quieter operation.
Keep a PSU at half load to save money from highest efficiency.
Most important things in a PSU are active PFC, efficiency and modular cables.
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No, i don't think that your claim is completely accurate.
I used to think the same way in the past, but i've changed my mind over time.
Personally, based on what i've seen at past reviews, i would prefer the opposite, i would prefer a PSU which comes not from the OEM directly, but a PSU that comes under the supervision of the OEM by a big company like Corsair, EVGA etc.
The most proper example was the EVGA G2 550 Vs the SF leadex Gold 550.
They both use Superflower's Leadex platform , same wattage, same Gold- efficiency, but if you compare the reviews you will see that the EVGA one is a better PSU overall, with their biggest difference being the use of quality caps from EVGA compared to the CapXon caps that the Superflower model uses.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...pply,4416.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...pply,4244.html
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