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S12iis I'd say are mediocre, Stefan would agree (probably).
Yes, but it's just way too expensive.
For the same price you can get DC-DC from other companys.


The S12II-Bronze plattform looks kinda like FSPs Hyper Plattform

But honestly:
For 65€, wich the ANtec HCG-520W costs, you can get:

Cougar LX500W -> fully modular (although cables a bit shorter) with DC-DC
be quiet Pure Power 10, 400W are cheaper, 500W non CM a bit cheaper, 500W CM bit more expensive.
Cougar GX-S (450W bit cheaper, 550W 2€ more)
Cooler Master G550M

And many other things....
Point is: It just costs way too much for what you get.
FSP Hyper 500W would be only 45€, 20€ less than HCG-520W...


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In that awful web there are other recomendations for other components that are awful too
-Top 5 fans: 4 Corsair, 1 Nox. Nothing about Noctua or BeQuiet or ...
-Top 6 CPU cooleres (air): 3 CM, 1 Tacens (Mars Gaming), 1 TT, 1 Noctua. Nothing about Cryorig, Scythe, Prolima, BeQuiet, Thermalright...
-Top 7 liquid cooler: 4 Corsair, 2 Enermax, 1 Nox.Nothing about EKWB Predator, NZXT Kraken ...
-Top 10 cajas: 3 NOX, 3 Aerocool, 3 Corsair, 1 Sharkoon.Nothing about Antec, Fractal, CM, TT, Zalman, NZXT, Silverstone...

In ALL categories there are Tacens or Nox models (or bothw)
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So you're saying Corsair liquid coolers and cases are awful?
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So you're saying Corsair liquid coolers and cases are awful?
No. Corsair has good case, while as any other company not all their products are allays the best of course.
I wanted to say that the recommendation are awful as the always include Tacns/Nox and ignore any interesting brands
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So you're saying Corsair liquid coolers and cases are awful?
Liquid Coolers are good.

Cases are so-so, a ton of the product line is either too expensive for the dated designs and build quality on offer while there a few standouts there also isn't much unique to Corsair's case line-up either.

In a very personal opinion; Corsair has too many damn cases that are all basically the same thing but with a different plastic part on the front.
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I've never really liked any retail cases lately... not just Corsair, but anything I find.

This is what I'd love to see in a case:
* Beige or white exterior
* Gray (unpainted) interior
* Nondescript exterior features (Corsair's Obsidian series gets this right)
* Green power LED
* Orange disk activity LED
* Tool-free, easily removable side panels (some of Corsair's Obsidian series gets this right too)
* As much tool-free as possible inside - if Gateway could do tool-free motherboards in the early 2000s, you can too :P
* SATA or SAS backplanes to fit in the drive bays would be nice as well, even if sold separately - bonus points if one or more of those bays are accessible from the outside
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I've never really liked any retail cases lately... not just Corsair, but anything I find.

This is what I'd love to see in a case:
* Beige or white exterior
* Gray (unpainted) interior
* Nondescript exterior features (Corsair's Obsidian series gets this right)
* Green power LED
* Orange disk activity LED
* Tool-free, easily removable side panels (some of Corsair's Obsidian series gets this right too)
* As much tool-free as possible inside - if Gateway could do tool-free motherboards in the early 2000s, you can too :P
* SATA or SAS backplanes to fit in the drive bays would be nice as well, even if sold separately - bonus points if one or more of those bays are accessible from the outside
I know how you feel. I kinda feel the same and always have a hard time finding a decent case...

Sadly of my 3 newest cases, one is total garbage and one is shit. And with that I mean from a manufacturing point.
One is pretty good but a bit on the smaller side. 5-10mm more depth would be nice...

Anyway:
You and I would buy such cases but the masses would not and that's the problem...

With my two cases:
One french sounding one is just awfully built. Perhaps it wouldn't look as bad if the case wasn't painted black, I don't know. But one of the hard drive cages is not made right (schief in German)....
And also other stuff like bad machine markings, the Motherboard tray looks crooked. It just looks bad, made without any effort, no love here...

The other one is the first case ever I had to RMA. Because one rivet holding the ATX I/O shield wasn't that great and came loose...
I haven't seen such garbage, normally in this area it is either spot welded in many position or there are many rivets. Here it's just one...
And also some minor mistakes for the HDD cages, so that it's not easy to remove the HDD if you mount it with the connectors to the right.


And of course, both cases are insulated (wich is nice, but I would have preferred a better quality)...


Buttom line:
We 'Nerds' would buy anything that is just very practical, even if it doesn't look that great. Or even looks like an ancient case.
If the "inner values" of the cases are the right ones, the rest doesn't matter...

But the normal populus likes optics more, they don't know (yet?) what makes a good case or a bad one...
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When it comes to cases, I'm looking for a feature that has become quite rare:
no PSU shroud. I have watercooling and am looking to extend it, but these things are a major disturbance. Also, is noone using passive PSUs anymore?
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Yeah. Believe me. As a PSU PM, I'm frustrated every time I see a new chassis with a PSU shroud. I mean, we work so hard trying to make a plain black box look presentable... and then they just cover it up.
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Yeah. Believe me. As a PSU PM, I'm frustrated every time I see a new chassis with a PSU shroud. I mean, we work so hard trying to make a plain black box look presentable... and then they just cover it up.
I think PSU shrouds were invented to cover up the cables, not the PSU. In fact, that'd be nice mod for some people - just cut out part of the basement to uncover the sexy PSU (/opinion) but leave the rest of it in to cover the spaghetti,.
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