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You are right Jon, but I wont accuse them of faking before more details on the PCB emerge.

Nobody would swap vendors of a platform at launch, unless Superflower had unforeseen/unplanned huge volume issues, etc. .

Just, IF, the layout & components were not changed, it would be ok. That is why I wrote it.
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Super Flower uses both relabeling and subcontracting. They for example relabled HEC Bronze design for their own Bronze FX series. They also use subcontracting for their own designs. In this case it's even their components. Still, annother factory can mean different assembly quality.
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Super Flower uses both relabeling and subcontracting. They for example relabled HEC Bronze design for their own Bronze FX series. They also use subcontracting for their own designs. In this case it's even their components. Still, annother factory can mean different assembly quality.
This the kind of thing that only insiders know -- consumers don't.
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This the kind of thing that only insiders know -- consumers don't.
Yes and they shouldn't care much about it.

In the End we are talking about the same unit, just assembled in different factorys.
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Yes and they shouldn't care much about it.

In the End we are talking about the same unit, just assembled in different factorys.
But consumers do care. And although you may consider that a unit built in a state-of-the-art factory the same as one built in a fly-ridden POS factory, maybe we should let the buying public decide? Is the industry afraid that more information is a bad thing?
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Super Flower factory state of the art? Jon and me both know the place. Yes, it's overall a good factory, but it's equipment is definately not state of the art. Their assembly quality is good because of factory culture and experience, not because of having a state of the art factory. If you go to Delta after visiting Super Flower you immediatly feel the difference.
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Super Flower factory state of the art? Jon and me both know the place. Yes, it's overall a good factory, but it's equipment is definately not state of the art. Their assembly quality is good because of factory culture and experience, not because of having a state of the art factory. If you go to Delta after visiting Super Flower you immediatly feel the difference.
I'm sorry. I should have been more clear. I was giving a hypothetical. I was not referring to any specific factory. I know nothing of specific factories. I, like all consumers, only know what people who visit factories report. I was simply making a case for more transparency in the PSU industry.
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Super Flower factory state of the art? Jon and me both know the place. Yes, it's overall a good factory, but it's equipment is definately not state of the art. Their assembly quality is good because of factory culture and experience, not because of having a state of the art factory. If you go to Delta after visiting Super Flower you immediatly feel the difference.
It's real simple. Send the ones to the reviewers that you are going to sell to the public. If you don't think this wreaks, I'm not sure how to better get the point across.
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It's real simple. Send the ones to the reviewers that you are going to sell to the public. If you don't think this wreaks, I'm not sure how to better get the point across.
They need to send reviewers samples from Newegg, which is how Seasonic does it now according to a HardOCP article.
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Seasonic is not the only one company providing samples from retail shops from time to time. Still, I like this approach a lot since it shows the confidence of the PSU company in their own QC/QA.
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