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Old 08-01-2014
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It uses CapXon capacitors, which are low-quality components. It will work fine, but it may not last more than a couple years.

It's no more efficient than the Seasonic, and it also appears to be more expensive.
On the other hand it has DC-DC regulation, whereas Seasonic is group regulated.

It also has 5 year warranty and modular cabling (whereas S12II is not modular).

Lifespan of caps is most likely a non-issue, as fan profile is not tuned for silence, so you can expect reasonable cooling for them. You cannot just take brand of caps and blindly say "It will fail in x months/years" without taking other factors into account.

I'd take G550M over S12II any day. Obviously it would be a different story as for G-series.
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It also has 5 year warranty and modular cabling (whereas S12II is not modular).

Lifespan of caps is most likely a non-issue, as fan profile is not tuned for silence, so you can expect reasonable cooling for them. You cannot just take brand of caps and blindly say "It will fail in x months/years" without taking other factors into account.

I'd take G550M over S12II any day. Obviously it would be a different story as for G-series.
Being modular doesn't make it more reliable, though. It makes it more convenient to use, but it has nothing to do with the soundness of the design. I don't like going for convenience over quality when I have to pinch pennies.

I will admit, I don't like CapXon much because I've had issues with them. I've never had an issue with group-regulated designs that were well-built.

I'm only saying that I wouldn't personally recommend or use it, because I don't trust that component. That doesn't mean it's absolutely a bad choice with no merit, of course. Different people have different standards.
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You cannot just take brand of caps and blindly say "It will fail in x months/years" without taking other factors into account.
Check out those links:

http://www.illinoiscapacitor.com/tec...lculators.aspx
http://jianghai-america.com/uploads/...mation_AAL.pdf

Clearly, there are many other factors at work, most of which cannot even be measured by most users at all.

Your experience, while unfortunate, cannot possibly account for all these factors and therefore you will not be able to reason about other PSUs with same brand of caps used with anything resembling accuracy. Heck, even actual quality of caps themselves may not be constant between your and new PSUs, despite the same brand.

Therefore saying "it has x brand capacitors, so it will fail within Y time" is nothing more than FUD.

Unless you leave it at very nebulous statements like "it MAY fail within A FEW years". But then guess what? So can Seasonic. And Super Flower. And every other PSU on market. And every single piece of electronic equipment in general.
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I don't trust a particular aspect of the design. It's not like I didn't hear you the first time.

I don't understand why I'm being accused of spreading FUD simply because my idea of quality is different from yours.

If you want me to say that I'm okay with a design that uses what I consider to be low-quality components and should give it a green flag, then I have no intention of doing that. If that makes me a fool, then so be it.

I understand that you think the chances of failure are equal, that other factors matter more, and that you think it's too small a detail to be important. I happen to disagree, that's all.
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Old 08-02-2014
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http://www.dc-shop.ro/surse/sursa-mo...p_650s-650w-l/
http://www.dc-shop.ro/surse/sursa-su...series-600w-l/
I've also found these pus and i was wondering if they are good.
Oh, and i forgot to mention. The maximum budget would be 400 ron.
I want to buy something that's good, and will work if i decide to upgrade or overclock in the future. And i want it to be at least 80+ bronze.
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The SuperFlower by a long shot.

However, as already mentioned, this is better:

http://www.dc-shop.ro/surse/sursa-su...en-pro-550w-l/

550 watts is plenty for any single card, and with high CPU OC.

A better quality 550 is better than an average quality 600 any day of the week.
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The SuperFlower by a long shot.

However, as already mentioned, this is better:

http://www.dc-shop.ro/surse/sursa-su...en-pro-550w-l/

550 watts is plenty for any single card, and with high CPU OC.

A better quality 550 is better than an average quality 600 any day of the week.
I was also thinking of running an old nvidia 9500gt alongside my r9 270 (nvidia physics ftw)
Is that psu the best for the price?
I also found this: http://www.dc-shop.ro/surse/sursa-su...series-600w-l/
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Yes, the Super Flower Golden King 550 Pro. BTW, EMAG has it a little cheaper.

Unfortunately the 450W version is out of stock. Review

The HX Version uses lower quality caps and from what I can figure, has fewer cables.
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I was also thinking of running an old nvidia 9500gt alongside my r9 270 (nvidia physics ftw)
while a logical use of an old card, NVIDIA has crippled through drivers for the last 5 years.

Some people just figuring this out now
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/2014...gpu-installed/

They claim to protect experience(avoid driver conflict) but actually to force you to run all NVDA rather than AMD and NVDA.

http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/1...3-v1-05ff.html

They attempted to force a work around. I don't think they have been able to maintain the effort.(no one willing to support the software work required)

Some years ago I used the program to get my AMD 7970 to work with a NV5600TI...so it can be done and the NV excuse for crippling is complete BS.

So depends on how modern of OS and drivers you are using if you can use their work around.

PS,

I got it to work when play Mafia II.
Didn't change game play, just made things exploding look more realistic.

Not really worth the trouble in my opinion...but that is the only source I know of to make it work.

Good LUCK.

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The SuperFlower by a long shot.

However, as already mentioned, this is better:

http://www.dc-shop.ro/surse/sursa-su...en-pro-550w-l/

550 watts is plenty for any single card, and with high CPU OC.

A better quality 550 is better than an average quality 600 any day of the week.
In the end i went with this one: http://www.dc-shop.ro/surse/sursa-su...n-green-pro-l/
It looks like a bigger version of the one suggested and the price difference isn't big. So...yeah. I'll tell you how it works when i'll get it, and i'll also post pics of the Raidmax 530SS i was using until now. That psu will go in my mum's computer, i think it's good enough to power an Amd fx6100 and an integrated graphics card. While this new one will power my rig.
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