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    Are you made out of money?

    That motherboard is Extended ATX, the case is ATX and I'm not sure that motherboard fits. (later edit, looks like the case does support e-atx so it's ok there)

    The i7-980 is way too much money for the performance and you say you're going to do some gaming and general computer usage - it doesn't make sense.
    Unless you're going to do video encoding or play some very specific games like flight simulators, a more average processor would be better - games don't need that much processing power and you can basically overclock the current processors a lot if you'll needed.


    i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz would be enough at about 300 Canadian dollars: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16819115070 But this is socket 1155 so you'd have to change the motherboard as well.

    If you plan to stick with that motherboard, again, it's Extended ATX and you have to make sure the motherboard can fit the case. If it does, again it seems like a pointless purchase. It's more expensive because it supports 3way sli or quad crossfire but you're going to use only one video card so it makes no sense.

    The motherboard if you look at the pictures supports 6 memory slots and in theory you get the best performance if you use 3 memory modules or six memory modules - it's triple channel unlike the other more "normal" motherboards. So the memory selection is a bit bad, if you stick to this motherboard you should pick three sticks or six sticks.

    If you decide to go with my proposal of getting the Sandy Bridge processor, these motherboards would have a good set of features at a good price:

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813157263
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813128513
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813128506

    The 1155 socket architecture works only with dual channel, so you need to get either 2 or 4 memory sticks.

    Your choice of memory is good but from various tests and benchmarks made by various websites, there's not much improvement going over 1600 Mhz. What you chose is good but way too expensive for the performance increase they bring compared to cheaper memory sticks.

    I would recommend going with a 1600 or 1866 Mhz memory module with low latency, such as this:

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820233183
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231456

    For both your original system and the one I'm proposing, 1200 watts is a bit too much for a power supply - that would be more suitable if you had 2 GTX 580 in the system. A good 750-800 watts power supply would be enough in my opinion.

    As for video cards... I'd rather not get into it, I'm biased towards ATI (AMD) video cards but GTX 580 is nice. Not sure if it's best money for performance... maybe you'd be better off with two 560 TI in SLI mode or even just one, if you're going to do just "some" gaming.

    The SSD... I really have no clue what's better nowadays... check Anandtech's articles, they recently tested a bunch of drives. I seem to remember they rated Intel drives best for stability in time and Sandforce 2 based drives for speed (but they were not reliable).

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    I agree with Mariush on one thing.. 1366 is an EOL platform, with 0(Zero) benefits over Sandy Bridge and a lot of drawbacks.. beside that, the RIII Black Edition has one real purpose, and that is LN2 sessions with a Gulftown, meaning it's pointless unless you're really Really hardcore in regards to overclocking..

    AX1200 is complete and utter nonsense for any single and even dual GPU config.. and besides, HCP 1200 is a more elegant solution.. but really, go with a Golden Green solution..

    The 580 is a reference board which is not bad, but considering the rig you have in mind you really want some high end custom PCB solution, and the best one is the MSI Lightning..

    Revodrive X2 is old and buggy, it uses two first generation SandForce controllers, it is not a native PCIe solution, it doesn't support Trim, and offers no real benefit over a high end SATA III solution, only shortcomings..

    The Lian Li X2000 is an awesome case, very cool concept, however it's not on par with other high end solutions cooling wise, like the A77 also from Lian Li for example..
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    My suggestions(considering the limitless budget you seem to have for this build) below:

    Processor -> 2600K, the best CPU and the best platform available at the moment, for gaming and pretty much everything else.
    Motherboard -> Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z, hands down the best SandyB motherboard.
    Graphic Card -> MSI GTX580 Lightning, also the best GTX 580 solution on the market.. you could go with the 3Gb version, but the returns are small to nonexistent, also the larger memory chips used translate into a higher memory latency, but if you play @ 2560x1600 it might be worth it.
    Power Supply -> NZXT Hale90 850W, as stated previously, 1200W for a single GPU system is nonsense.
    SSD -> Crucial M4, SandForce 2k drives are all the rage at the moment, and also extremely buggy, that's why i'd go with the best Marvell solution available atm.
    Memory -> G.Skill RipjawsX 2133/CL7, badass memory for a badass system
    Case -> Lian Li P80 or A77 or maybe a Silverstone Fortress Two, that's what i'd pick.
    CPU Cooler -> Prolimatech Super Mega, far smaller than the Noctua D14 and the Thermal Right Silver Arrow but offering the same level of performance, meaning the best.. far better than any AIO water cooling solutions, will easily allow you to keep the 2600K @ above 5Ghz for daily use(with proper fans).
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    Generally agree with above, fwiw, the monitor resolution (and the number of monitors) to be used and /or wanted would make suggestions easier.
    Samsung F3 or F4 hard drives seem to have the most convincing reliability/cost/ performance envelope at the moment.
    Strictly speaking there is no advantage to the I7 2600K over the I5 2500K for gaming.

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    Hi fellows, thank you for your support.

    Here is a revised partial build. I will still need some guidance on the missing components, to much information to assimilate!

    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q-16GBXL

    MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3072MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

    ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard

    Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

    Prolimatech Supermega Intel Socket 1156, 1366 and 775, 6 Dual Heatpipes, Twin Tower CPU Cooler

    Does everyone agree the Prolimatech is the appropriate/best CPU cooler for the Sandy Bridge CPU?

    The things I still need help with are the appropriate:

    PSU - wattage and manufacturer and model.

    Computer case - I want to acquire a full tower.
    Would you please provide me a link to the Lian Li PC-A77 case at newegg.ca I cannot seem to locate it, thank you.

    Harddrive - type and manufacturer.
    Some questions on the HD - Which SATA III SSD is the right one for my system build? The Crucial M4 with Marvel controller or another manufacturer with the Sandforce 2 controller?

    Thank you in advance

    CG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chess Gator View Post
    Oh and what is this Sandforce 2 about
    Various SSDs use various controllers, SandForce makes some of those controllers and performance wise, the best on the market, however they're not the most stable or reliable.. that's why at this moment in time, Marvell based drives(like the above suggested Crucial M4) which are also top performers, are the way to go.

    Here you go, again:

    SSD ->Crusial M4 128GB
    HDD -> Samsung Spinpoint F3
    Case -> Lian Li PC-Z70 or Lian Li PC-P80 or maybe Silverstone Fortress FT02
    VGA -> Msi GTX 580 Lightning
    PSU -> Kingwin Lazer Platinum 550W or Kingwin Lazer Gold 850W
    First one if you're sticking with a single graphic card configuration, the second one for a dual GTX 580 setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Original Sin View Post
    Various SSDs use various controllers, SandForce makes some of those controllers and performance wise, the best on the market, however they're not the most stable or reliable.. that's why at this moment in time, Marvell based drives(like the above suggested Crucial M4) which are also top performers, are the way to go.

    Here you go, again:

    SSD ->Crusial M4 128GB
    HDD -> Samsung Spinpoint F3
    Case -> Lian Li PC-Z70 or Lian Li PC-P80 or maybe Silverstone Fortress FT02
    VGA -> Msi GTX 580 Lightning
    PSU -> Kingwin Lazer Platinum 550W or Kingwin Lazer Gold 850W
    First one if you're sticking with a single graphic card configuration, the second one for a dual GTX 580 setup.
    Hi, thanks for the tips. Unfortunately, some of those components are not available at newegg.ca only at newegg.com

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    Well, if you go with the Maximus motherboard you need a case that will support EATX boards and that excludes the Silverstone mentioned above, if however you go with the AsRock board you'll be ok with pretty much any case..
    The A77 is not available it seems, but the P80 and Z70 are out there performance wise so essentially is a question of taste.. in the end pretty much any case at that level will do, so pick what you like..

    If you can't find the PSUs listed above, look for other rebrands of the same platform, as mentioned before.. Sentey Golden Steel, NZXT Hale, Kingwin Lazer Gold or Rosewill Lightning.. You can always go for a Seasonic X variant but you don't really get anything for the price difference.

    In regards to the cooler, you need to pick something that will fit next to those memory sticks with raised heat sinks.. the Super Mega should fit, but the safest bet would be the ThermalRight Archon.
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    Did I forget a component I want to order the components by next weekend.
    Well, the OS of course...

    I always look to see if I can get some of my core components with a combo price discount.

    EX. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDe...t=Combo.717848

    Finally, you will need to pick fans for the CPU cooler...again obvious, but something to think about.

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