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    Hi, I'm new to this forum and also new to computer building. I think I know enough though that I can successfully build one on my own though. I was just needing some clarification in some areas: Compatibility, stability, and gaming performance are the three big ones. Will are of these parts work well with each other? And also will I have to mess with the voltage of say the memory once everything is installed or will it be good as is? And do all of these parts have a good price to performance ratio? I probably won't be doing SLI either, I figure one video card is enough. And if you are wondering why I chose that motherboard, its because the lifetime warranty from EVGA and the price seems good for such a new product. I just wish the E8400 was available on Newegg. My budget is around $1000 - $1400. I'm open to any suggestions.

    Here's a list the parts I'm looking into:

    Case - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811129021

    Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822148288

    Power Supply - PC Power & Cooling S610EPS EPS12V 610W Continuous @ 40°C Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, cUL, CE, CB, TUV http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16817703005

    Video Card - EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130312

    Processor
    - Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115028

    Memory - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820146565

    Motherboard
    - EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813188024

    CD/DVD Burner - SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827151154

    Heatsink with Fan - XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16835233003

    Operating system - Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2B 1 Pack
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16832116056
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    If you aren't going to be doing SLI, that motherboard is serious overkill. You can save some serious cash going after a P35 board instead.

    The video card is a solid choice. If you don't already have Crysis and really want it, then the game bundle is OK, but it's not really free.

    This is the same board without the game, $30 cheaper:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130325

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    Oh. yea I was wondering what the difference was between the two. Do you think I will need to buy a heatsink or nah? If I can't get the E8400 soon, what do you think I should get in the meantime? The one I listed or something else? I was debating between the E6750 and the E6850. Tomshardware.com gives the E6750 a better price/performance ratio.

    Which do you guys think is the better choice:

    Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811129021

    or

    COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119137

    or

    NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146025
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    You are asking questions without giving some needed information, however:

    What games will you play?

    When you say performance, what exactly do you mean? Do you want to overclock? How serious of an overclock?

    What size is your monitor?

    I agree that a good P35 mainboard would be a smarter choice.

    Also, a 8800GT might be more than enough for you, for much less, it approaches that card in performance according to what I've been told, others hopefully will pipe in.

    PS is fine but might be louder than others, right guys?

    I'd get a quad core if it were me, for many reasons. You didn't tell us anything about what types of applications and activities you do on a computer, so who knows WHAT you need??? Remember, folks aren't mind readers, friend. But quard core is the way to go for lots of folks. Better multitasking with less lockups if any, and some games and programs are just beginning to trickle in that take advantage of multicore systems.

    I'd get 2 x 2GB of RAM if it were me. Why? RAM is so incredibly cheap, and you may upgrade in the future to, say, Vista (some don't call it an upgrade, but there is the 64 bit version that people are now drifting towards). Even though a 32 bit OS won't effectively use all of the 4 GB (due to the addressing limitations of 32 bit OS Windows and the related addressing of hardware), but rather maybe 3.5 GB, so what, RAM is so cheap right now!!!

    HTH.
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    I play world of warcraft and mostly use the computer for homework or surfing the web. Maybe other games in the future. Who knows. Monitor would be my T.V. which is a 20 inch Sharp. Widescreen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaminx View Post
    I play world of warcraft and mostly use the computer for homework or surfing the web. Maybe other games in the future. Who knows. Monitor would be my T.V. which is a 20 inch Sharp. Widescreen.
    Then are you sure you don't want to cut your budget in half? You don't need a $1000 computer to max out WoW, and high-end components depreciate fast as they fall behind the bleeding edge. You could cut the cost drastically with only a slight down-spec and get identical WoW performance.

    Even an 8800GT is really more than you need, but it's excellent price/performance, so you might as well. The only reasons to get anything more expensive are:
    • A specific need for slightly more performance than an 8800GT, despite the large cost permium, or
    • To advertise having more money than brains.

    Combine that with a decent Core 2 duo and P35 motherboard and you've got a kick-ass computer. You don't have to get an E8400, although I can understand the desire very well.

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    It's virtually pointless to get an aftermarket cooler unless you will be overclocking.

    TVs are NOT monitors unless you have the type that is a TV/Monitor combo, you might have issues with using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cypherpunks View Post
    Then are you sure you don't want to cut your budget in half?
    Just for example, not going quite that far, try:

    and the other components you were thinking of
    • $34 CD-rom,
    • $120 500 GB drive (you could save a few bucks there, but I'm assuming you have a porn collection reason to need the capacity),
    • $86 Windows XP, and
    • $80 Case,
    and you're looking at $1005 ($975 after rebate), for a kick-ass system. full of high-end components. You could shave the cost more, but that's still a box that any gamer would be proud to own. You can get an aftermarket cooler if you want to play with overclocking. (And notice I bumped you to 4 GB RAM; it's so cheap there's no reason not to.)

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    My tv's fine I checked the specs out. Good to go. Sharp 20 inch flat screen high defination. I've also changed some stuff in my list lately as well. I can update it later today.

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    New System Configuration. What ya think?

    Case - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119137

    Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148288

    Power Supply - PC Power & Cooling S610EPS EPS12V 610W Continuous @ 40°C Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, cUL, CE, CB, TUV
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703005

    Video Card - EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130325

    Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115029

    Memory - CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820145034

    Motherboard - ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813131219

    CD/DVD Burner - SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827151154

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