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    My tentative system build:

    Case LIAN LI PC-V1200Bplus II
    CASE FAN Scythe KAMA BAY SCKB-1000BK 120mm
    HSF Tuniq Tower 120
    CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield (possibly a Q6700)
    RAM mushkin 4GB(2 x 2GB) 5-4-4-12
    GPU1 EVGA 768-P2-N885-AR GeForce 8800Ultra
    GPU2 EVGA 768-P2-N885-AR GeForce 8800Ultra
    MB EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1
    Optical1 Pioneer Black 18X SATA
    Optical2 Pioneer Black 18X SATA
    HDD1 Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB
    HDD2 Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB


    Initially, I was thinking of getting the PCP&C 750w silencer. I've heard good things about it. Then, after looking at the specs of my system, I'm not sure if I want to get a 750w or if I should maybe bump up to a 1kw PSU. So I read the review of the Ultra X3 1000w PSU on this site and on the hardocp site. I love the connection style of the ultras. I like their 100% modular design and the performance is great. The lifetime warranty (upon registration) is an outstanding bonus too.

    I'm now in a quandary as far as which power supply to get. This is probably one of the harder decisions I've had to make regarding this build. Would the 750w silencer get the job done and have room to spare, or would I be better off getting a 1kw for longevity purposes? Who knows how many watts the G92 cards will need when they come out 6 months from now...

    I've also considered the Enermax Galaxy, and TT ToughPower 1000w, and all of the other 1kw units.

    If you were building a system like mine, what would you get?

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    does the performance of an 8800 Ultra over a GTX justify the premium price? It's your money, of course, but spending an additional 600 dollars for a few additional fps just seems a waste.

    that said, I'd get the Ultra X3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWicked1968 View Post
    does the performance of an 8800 Ultra over a GTX justify the premium price? It's your money, of course, but spending an additional 600 dollars for a few additional fps just seems a waste.

    that said, I'd get the Ultra X3.
    The cost difference is not as big as it was. The gtx is now $540 and the ultra is $630. So for 2 cards it's $180 difference. But you are absolutely right, back when the ultras were 2x the price, they definitely weren't worth it, and they still might not be in some people's eyes. But an additional $90 per card isn't quite so hard to justify, if it prevents you from having to upgrade a few months longer (and I'm not saying it will, but it might).

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    with any luck, nvidia will release drivers that actually put those cards' horsepower to use in pure DX10 environments.

    I know this is about PSU's but your monitor choice is going to be important. You must be looking at something big, at least 22".
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWicked1968 View Post
    with any luck, nvidia will release drivers that actually put those cards' horsepower to use in pure DX10 environments.

    I know this is about PSU's but your monitor choice is going to be important. You must be looking at something big, at least 22".
    I already have a Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP-HC (1920x1200). I am thinking of buying a second one at some point down the road. This is going to be a personal workstation/gaming rig.

    I am a computer science major and an aspiring game developer, so I will be using this rig for software developing and modeling (I'm not a great graphic artist at the moment, but I would like to make my own models for game demos to expand my portfolio, etc). In any case, the point I am getting at is that it's alot easier to multi-task and get work done with 2 monitors, so at some point I may be driving 2 high res monitors with this bad boy. (If I get a wild hair and can find a good sale I may even spring for the 30inch dell and have 1 2560x1600 and 1 1920x1200 display).

    In any case, to answer you question, I will have monitor(s) to justify the SLI.

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    SLI only works with one monitor I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by signmeuptoo View Post
    SLI only works with one monitor I thought.
    Yes, that's another thing that kinda sucks about my whole idea that I'm kinda in a quandary about. From what I understand you can set the nvidia drivers so that it will enable SLI mode anytime a game starts (thus turning off the secondary monitor), and then disable SLI when you stop the game (which turns the monitor back on).

    So I could do the dual monitor workstation thing when I'm not gaming and then take advantage of SLI when I game. The only thing that sucks about it that I wouldn't be able to take advantage of games that have multi-monitor support, unless I wanted to run it w/out SLI (which defeats the purpose of buying an extra $600 card).

    All we can hope for at this point is that nvidia will add some of the features to their geforce SLI drivers that already exist on the quadro SLI drivers. For instance, from what I understand, Quadro cards support multi-monitor SLI. It makes sense because content creators who do modeling, animation, etc would need the power of SLI but they would need the ability to multi-task w/ 2 monitors. Then again, maybe that's one of the reasons they charge $1500+ per Quadro card. If the Geforce cards had all the same features, there wouldn't be a reason for the price descrepancy.

    Edit: So anyways, back to the orginal topic of the post. I'm guessing the general concensus is that, in my case, the Ultra X3 is the better option.

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    X3 is better value for the money and will probably out-regulate the Silencer across the board.

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    Ultra X-3 all the way. I love pc power and cooling the X-3 is just a more versatile power supply. They were selling them for $249 in the hot deals section too. Thats way less than the 1kw PC power and Cooling unit.

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    Well, I took everyone's advice. I ordered an Ultra X3 1000w a few hours ago. $262 on www.buy.com... I think that should do the trick.

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