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    Default New Build - replace or keep my PSU

    Planning an upgrade of my current system and not sure if I should keep or replace me PSU. I've had it for about 6 years, it works, has all the needed connectors.

    Current PSU: Antec HCG-620M (based off the Seasonic M12II-620)
    • Max Output: 620W
    • Rating: 80 PLUS Bronze
    • Cooling: 135 mm Double Ball Bearing Fan
    • Dimensions: 150 mm (W) x 86 mm (H) x 160 mm (D)
    • Compliance: ATX12V v2.30, EPS 2.92

    New system:
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 3600
    MB: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4
    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200
    Video Card: MSI RX 580 ARMOR MK2 8G OC
    Storage:
    • Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
    • WD 2TB Red Hard drive

    Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case
    PSU Options:
    1. Keep Antec
    2. SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550w
    3. Corsair RM550x
    4. be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600w 80+ Gold


    Thanks for any guidance!

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    I would replace the unit. 6 years was a good service life and it's out of warranty.

    My suggestion would also be to pick up the Corsair or Be Quiet! units. Seasonic's Focus platform has some issues that have been slightly addressed but not outright fixed. Between the Corsair and the BeQuiet my suggestion is simply to get whichever unit is cheaper. You wouldn't really be loosing out in any meaningful regard with either unit.

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    For a home desktop computer the usage may only be a few hours a day, perhaps a 15% duty cycle; in such a case 6 years is not a lot at all. I'm not saying the advice is bad, just that I am a bit conservative. However I would go for a Seagate FireCuda 3.5" 2TB (Solid State Hybrid Drive) instead of the Western Digital Red, even if I am a Western Digital fan.

    I am still freaking out about non-recoverable errors in modern hard drives; for the WD Red Pro

    https://documents.westerndigital.com...879-800022.pdf

    it is

    < 10 in 10^14 bits

    which means an error every 1 TB.

    i.e. fill the disk once and there may already be some corruption.


    Solid state drives seem much better (< 1 in 10^17 bits)

    https://documents.westerndigital.com...r-dc-sn200.pdf

    until one gets to

    Data retention: 3-month at 40C


    Used to be that the power supply was the weak point in a computer, now I am beginning to wonder.
    Last edited by ashiekh; 02-09-2020 at 06:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashiekh View Post
    For a home desktop computer the usage may only be a few hours a day, perhaps a 15% duty cycle; in such a case 6 years is not a lot at all. I'm not saying the advice is bad, just that I am a bit conservative. However I would go for a Seagate FireCuda 3.5" 2TB (Solid State Hybrid Drive) instead of the Western Digital Red, even if I am a Western Digital fan.

    I am still freaking out about non-recoverable errors in modern hard drives; for the WD Red Pro

    https://documents.westerndigital.com...879-800022.pdf

    it is

    < 10 in 10^14 bits

    which means an error every 1 TB.

    i.e. fill the disk once and there may already be some corruption.


    Solid state drives seem much better (< 1 in 10^17 bits)

    https://documents.westerndigital.com...r-dc-sn200.pdf

    until one gets to

    Data retention: 3-month at 40C


    Used to be that the power supply was the weak point in a computer, now I am beginning to wonder.
    Thanks for the reply. I already own the HD, I should have mentioned that. I actually own 6 of the WD 2TB Reds all over 4 years old with no issues. It's only for steam so if it dies, I just replace it with one of my 2 spares and download the games again. I only have a few installed. My system used to be on 24x7 as a VMware workstation/crunching Folding@home and gaming, then it migrated to file/plex/emby server. I ran like this for almost 5 years. Its just gaming now so it's only on 15 or so hours a week. I think it's time for a new PSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
    I would replace the unit. 6 years was a good service life and it's out of warranty.

    My suggestion would also be to pick up the Corsair or Be Quiet! units. Seasonic's Focus platform has some issues that have been slightly addressed but not outright fixed. Between the Corsair and the BeQuiet my suggestion is simply to get whichever unit is cheaper. You wouldn't really be loosing out in any meaningful regard with either unit.
    Thanks for the info. I'll keep my eyes pealed for a deal on one of those two then. Good to know I was in the ballpark on choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
    I would replace the unit. 6 years was a good service life and it's out of warranty.

    My suggestion would also be to pick up the Corsair or Be Quiet! units. Seasonic's Focus platform has some issues that have been slightly addressed but not outright fixed. Between the Corsair and the BeQuiet my suggestion is simply to get whichever unit is cheaper. You wouldn't really be loosing out in any meaningful regard with either unit.
    What about the EVGA units?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWD1961 View Post
    What about the EVGA units?
    EVGA's quality is all over the place, but off the top of my head;

    EVGA P2, T2, G2, & G3 units are all worthwhile.

    They have many more lines (G+, G1+, GQ, GD, GA, & GM) but many of them lack any proper reviews and based off inferior technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
    I would replace the unit. 6 years was a good service life and it's out of warranty.

    My suggestion would also be to pick up the Corsair or Be Quiet! units. Seasonic's Focus platform has some issues that have been slightly addressed but not outright fixed. Between the Corsair and the BeQuiet my suggestion is simply to get whichever unit is cheaper. You wouldn't really be loosing out in any meaningful regard with either unit.
    Can you elaborate on the Seasonic Focus "issues."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
    EVGA's quality is all over the place, but off the top of my head;

    EVGA P2, T2, G2, & G3 units are all worthwhile.

    They have many more lines (G+, G1+, GQ, GD, GA, & GM) but many of them lack any proper reviews and based off inferior technology.
    How about the G5 models? The one I am looking at is the EVGA Supernova 650 G5 has a ten year warranty whereas the G2-3 are 7 year.

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