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    Hi.

    Iíve shared my build(it will be my first) in a few places and without fail each PSU I have down has been criticised or Iíve been advised to change it for X or Y.

    I went Corsair first, then cooler master.... thought I really had it sorted with the Seasonic in my build below (great reviews) then I get told to go with Bitfenix Formula 650w 80+ gold. Then Corsair TMX gold....

    As a noob what do I go with? I just need more than one person to agree itís the right choice :-) is like modular if possible.

    Iím based in the UK,
    Iíd like to dabble with overclocking - the memory is prime for this I think?

    My build - feel free to be critical or offer advice.
    PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/G6nD27

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£172.38 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard (£114.27 @ CCL Computers)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£60.78 @ Aria PC)
    Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£109.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card (£347.48 @ CCL Computers)
    Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.04 @ CCL Computers)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £943.92
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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    The Seasonic isn't a good choice, it's a 10 years old design which isn't build for a modern PC.

    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/...p-fm450ulag-7r
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/...-cp-9020133-na

    Are both good choices, with the Bitfenix Formula Gold 450W you have some room for overclocking. With the Corsair TX550M you have a lot more room for overclocking. The Bitfenix is more silent and the Corsair has a longer warranty.

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    Thanks for the reply. I would really like modular
    If possible....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spandex View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I would really like modular
    If possible....
    You mean full modular? As I don't see the usefulness for a semi modular power supply in a NZXT H510 case. Because you gonna use most cables and the other cables can be easily be placed under the PSU cover.

    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/...-wg450umag-7fm
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/...-cp-9020177-na
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/...r-supply-bn280

    Are good choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spandex View Post
    Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
    No, just no!
    Its far too expensive for what you get, an old design (came out in ~2010) that's really loud with medium to high loads, lacks Protection, initially the Label was wrong.

    I don't get why its still regarded highly "in the Interwebs", even though you can get far superior units for the same price that don't go out of spec when "normally loaded" like here:
    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-07/...ungsregulation

    The Green Line is the Seasonic S12II-Bronze (and Seasonic doesn't like to modify their units for customers).

    All in all: get one of the units Mask recommended.
    Or a be quiet Straight Power 11, wich should also be available at a reasonable price in the UK.

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    I think conflicting advice is normal when the requirements are not well defined

    You want

    * reliable
    * silent
    * efficient
    ?

    the list goes on; each may lead to a different recommendation.

    You want modular, so may be willing to sacrifice some reliability and cost for looks.

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    go with a seasonic 600TL or 650TR and you will never need to buy a PSU in your life anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkantospt View Post
    go with a seasonic 600TL or 650TR and you will never need to buy a PSU in your life anymore.
    That's not true at all. Quality wise a PSU that costs half can be just as good. They can also be the most silent component in your system with a fan, for half the price. The difference is that if you spent half your money now, you can buy over, lets say 10 years a new power supply. Which wil have the latest ATX specification and technology. Something a 10 year old power supply simply won't have. Both Seasonic's are ATX 2.4 by the way, first ATX 2.52 power supplies are already on the market, ATX 2.6 should arive in 2020. Over 10 years we could have something totally different.

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    And also the question is when ATX12VO will be a thing.

    Will it be 2021 with DDR5?

    Then you can throw away your old PSU as you need 12V Standby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan Payne View Post
    And also the question is when ATX12VO will be a thing.

    Will it be 2021 with DDR5?

    Then you can throw away your old PSU as you need 12V Standby.
    True for new builds, but not true if you still use your old motherboard.
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