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    i'm planing to build a new desktop.
    till now i planed to go on the intel i7-8700K Processor and one of the mobo that goes with it.
    recently it was published that the new 9 generation cpu , 8 cores, and z390 chipset mobo's are around the corner.
    i am in a dilemma should i wait a bit for those new products.
    does anyone have some info about the expected speed difference in those processors compare to the current one's , their base clock speed and the expected time the'll be on the market?
    asus for example already published a list of z390 mobos.
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    i those rumours are correct looks like we are not talking about a significant difference.
    is there any info when those processors and mobos will be on the market?
    i'm a bit confused.
    what is the difference between 9 generation and cannon lake?
    https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/12/1...se-date-rumors

    can be that the z390 mobos will be on the market sooner?
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    found here some more info that shows kind of a trade-of for i7 cpu
    lower base speed on the i7 9700k compare to 8700k and less threads- 8 against 12 in 8700k.
    but 8 cores on 9700 compare to 6 in 8700, and higher max speed with one core in 9700.
    https://wccftech.com/intel-9th-gen-c...h-1st-october/

    another thing.
    will the z390 support a higher ram speed without overclocking?
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    I don't understand why people are so eager to support monopolys and reluctand to do something against that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kran11 View Post
    another thing.
    will the z390 support a higher ram speed without overclocking?

    If that's true, it will just be an extra RAM divider added to the Intel CPU Firmware baked into the BIOS of all Z390 boards. Anything above JDEC standards for DDR4 (anything higher than 3200Mhz) is going to be overclocking.

    That's just in regards to frequency though. If you're running 3200Mhz CL16 then that's also "overclocked" as the JEDEC standard for 3200Mhz is 20-20-20 (CL-tRCD-tRP).



    Likewise, it's also dependent on what the CPU supports as well. Right now, both Intel & AMD consider anything over 2666Mhz 17-17-17 to be "overclocked." Also using any kind of XMP profile is considered overclocking by both brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
    If that's true, it will just be an extra RAM divider added to the Intel CPU Firmware baked into the BIOS of all Z390 boards. Anything above JDEC standards for DDR4 (anything higher than 3200Mhz) is going to be overclocking.

    That's just in regards to frequency though. If you're running 3200Mhz CL16 then that's also "overclocked" as the JEDEC standard for 3200Mhz is 20-20-20 (CL-tRCD-tRP).



    Likewise, it's also dependent on what the CPU supports as well. Right now, both Intel & AMD consider anything over 2666Mhz 17-17-17 to be "overclocked." Also using any kind of XMP profile is considered overclocking by both brands.
    so the ram speed limit defined by the cpu?
    if that so it's interesting what will be the default limit, without o.c , with the new 9 gen. cpu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan Payne View Post
    I don't understand why people are so eager to support monopolys and reluctand to do something against that...
    stefan, i'm before building a new pc, and i don't do it frequently, so why not getting the best i can?
    that's the reason for my questions.

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    if it's o.k to ask here, have some technical question about using this site.
    i defined in my user control to get email when new post will come to my topic.
    it didn't work.
    how can i fix it?

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    Because you won't be able to upgrade it, while it might be possible on the other side.
    And also there is the issue with Spectre/Meltdown and every querter a couple of new exploits, mainly for Intel CPUs, comes out.

    So right now you don't know the Performance, you don't know if any of the Spectre/Meltdown stuff is fixed in hardware and still wants to support the monopolist? Without even knowing anything about this CPU?

    And you can be certain that the 10nm CPUs won't work on this Socket and a new one with minor changes will arise....

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