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    Default Looking for volunteers to fill out "tier list"

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    If some of you guys have some time, I'd like to at least get the fan size and type put into the spreadsheet.

    Also, I'd like to add a column for "DC to DC" for those PSUs that use DC to DC for the +3.3V and +5V and... if someone is daring enough.... add a column for topology (LLC vs. DF-SR vs....)

    This isn't a job for one, I know. Since this is Google Docs, everyone can see whoever else is working on the spreadsheet, so we probably won't step on each others' toes.

    I only require that volunteers have had a forum membership for at least a year (I have trust issues).

    I want this to be more than those shitty "tier lists". I want this to be a master data base with factual data and less subjectivity. I don't want to add any models right now or re-sort the tiers. I just want to make sure as much data is in the spreadsheet as possible.

    Any takers?

    Please PM me if you're interested.
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    I would be interested, but I don't have a year of membership. Imo the mask and mcsteel are good candidates if they agree to contributing.

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    Count me in if needed: I'm clearly not the most skilled out here, but in case I may gladly help out.
    Best, Luca

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    ridgid: You post enough, I think you're a good candidate.

    Both of you, please PM me whatever email address you typically use to access Google Drive documents and I'll add you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyGURU View Post
    ridgid: You post enough, I think you're a good candidate.

    Both of you, please PM me whatever email address you typically use to access Google Drive documents and I'll add you.
    I'm kind of clueless about this "job's" nature.
    If it is only a copy/paste-data kind of job, then i would like to participate myself.
    If it requires research as well, then i don't believe i could afford it. (*at this period at least).
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    I vote for Corsair units to be in tier 99

    I can email you a sheet on Monday, but you gotta split series' into models. And tier-ing is bullshit anyway. (I got no platform column though)

    You also need a max eff column for 230V PSUs

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    Quote Originally Posted by GI_Joe View Post
    And tier-ing is bullshit anyway. :
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by -The_Mask- View Post
    This
    So won't you help Jon, or are you just ranting (as well as Joerg)?
    Best, Luca

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    Imo this is just another tier list. It's of course already a lot better then those others because they are wrong in so many ways. But a list like this is stil not something I would call good.

    Why? Because just saying Tier x doesn't help anyone. Then you can of course add the OEM, platform, 80PLUS certificate, fan size, etc. but all those things are probably gonna backfire, because most people won't understand.

    They don't understand why the PSU got that tier and they're gonna make wrong conclusions. Probably something like CWT en HEC suck because all the tier 8 and 9 PSU's are made by them!!!111

    If you want to do it right you have to tell the ups en downs of every PSU. Something like:
    • Don't use the FSP Epsilon based OCZ StealthXStream and Zalman ZM-HP anymore. There is a big chance that many caps are already failed, which means high ripple, which can kill your PC.
    • Corsair RMx, RMi and HXi based on one platform with small differences. They are great PSU's and in most countries the price is really competitive. Difference between the RMx, RMi and HXi are...
    • Antec Signature was a really great PSU back in the day and still is. So if you still have one there isn't really a need to replace it yet.

    That's much more useful then just say "tier x" and give some other info what most people don't understand or just gonna use wrong.

    And I would add individual voltage regulation and not just DC-DC. Because imo LLC resonant converter + with dual mag-amp isn't less good then double forward with DC-DC. And because I already wrote a list like that about a year ago.
    http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...4067#C6C7LIJST (most decent or better EU brands are in there)

    But adding LLC resonant converter or double forward then sounds useless. It's something that not even anyone here understands, let alone the rest of interwebs.

    You also need to explain what everything means. And what makes a PSU tier 5 and not 4? Why 9 tiers? Not a bit much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -The_Mask- View Post
    Imo this is just another tier list. It's of course already a lot better then those others because they are wrong in so many ways. But a list like this is stil not something I would call good. ...................................
    We have made the same discussion here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12947
    As i wrote, personally, i strongly dissagree that a Tier list can't be useful because:

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    Originally Posted by Sith'Ari
    but it's VERY necessary to people without knowledge!!
    I think that such lists are very important, in order to give inexperienced users some basic info.
    For example, if someone sees that the PSU that a seller has proposed to him, is a tier5 one, then he will certainly reconsider.
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    Originally Posted by Sith'Ari
    Even so, there is one more factor that should be taken into account :
    That these lists are very useful from the perspective that they contain most of the PSUs that are available at the market, thus someone who wants to make a quick research, he won't have to spend much time searching for reviews.
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