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    Default Another 'help me with a new PC build'.

    My last build was back in 2008 and I spent quite a bit of money on it, and the machine is still running just fine, because I tried to buy quality parts for longevity, like the Gigabyte GA EX58 Extreme which was their flagship board back then, and is serving me well.

    The only items changed since then has been the PSU, and GFX cards. I had a pair of AMD HD 4870X2's and one died, and the RMA replacement was a 6860OC card, so I bought another one for CF.
    The only other addition has been a new 500GB WD Caviar Blue drive, as I was running short of HDD's.
    The details of my PC should be in my sig. below.

    Now, I should be coming into some funds in the very near future and would like to build a new one, again mainly for gaming. The other uses are just normal stuff, surfing, youtube, emails and stuff, nothing complicated.

    My current PC will stay complete as it is as a 2nd machine,

    Now I am a fan of Gigabyte boards and gfx cards. It used to be Abit and BFG, but they went bust.

    Corsair for PSU's, memory and maybe a mouse, and a water cooling setup.

    I am a fan of Corsair because of customer support. My original build had the HX1000 which went faulty within warranty, and Red Beard (I think) was a tremendous help in organizing the RMA process which was quick, efficient and impressive. I got the HX1050 in return. Things like that make me want to buy more Corsair products.

    Logitech for mice and keyboards, again great customer support.

    Dell/Samsung for monitors, but depends on what is on the market.
    Currently I have a 22" Samsung 1680x1050 - secondary screen.
    Dell 24" 2408WFP 1920x1200 - main screen.

    Now, I am interested in a Gigabyte X99 board probably the: Gigabyte X99-Gaming G. This board probably has more options that I will use, but, I could experiment with them later on. But open to suggestions for a gaming board, and preferably Gigabyte.

    CPU: i7-5930k ? (for the 40 lanes in case I go to SLI)

    PSU: Corsair ?

    Gigabyte: Nvidia GTX980Ti (or possibly the Titan)

    Memory: Corsair - about 16GB

    HDD's: WD VelociRaptors 500GB/1TB

    (I like WD drives because I have 6 of them dating from 2005, 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2015, and the 2005 250GB drive is happily running Win 7)

    Also I want to try an SSD drive - Samsung 850Pro 500GB ? - for the M.2 slot ? Very unsure about all this new tech.

    For the case I think I fancy the Corsair 780T, having seen a couple of YT videos on it.

    The motherboard supports this Thunderbolt thingy of which I have not much knowledge.
    Is it useful ?

    Now I have been out of PC building since 2008, so I am way out of my depth now, but have had a quick look around the various sites to see what is on offer.

    You chaps have a vast knowledge of these things, so any pointers would be much appreciated, also any comments on the items I have in mind to the build.

    Oh, budget for a complete PC with monitor(s), keyboard, mouse and mat. I will use either the onboard sound, or my current Creative THX 2.1 USB sound card which works fine in Windows 10 Pro-64bit, should be in the region of £1,000-2,000 at a stretch.
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    Why the X99/LGA2011-3 platform? Do you have any intensive computational task to perform?
    Best, Luca

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    Umm, no.
    I chose it because I thought that it was the newest chipset out, but I think I am wrong..........see, I said I was way out of touch with modern boards/chipsets, and need all the help I can get.

    It is only for a gaming set up, nothing otherwise intensive.

    On second thoughts, I rather fancy the GA-Z170X-Gaming G1 (rev. 1.0) with perhaps the Skylake i7-6700k cpu.
    Is this a better choice ?

    Thank you for your reply,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron View Post
    On second thoughts, I rather fancy the GA-Z170X-Gaming G1 (rev. 1.0) with perhaps the Skylake i7-6700k cpu.
    Is this a better choice ?
    It's a more efficient choice (energy wise and money wise), and it is faster in games.

    About your other questions, these are my thoughts atm:

    Quote Originally Posted by Baron View Post
    PSU: Corsair ?
    HXi 750, RMi 650 are their most advanced effort and will be enough for gaming with a SLI of GTX 980Ti. Using heavily overvolted Gigabyte G1 Gaming cards for that SLI should add another 150-180W on top of the expected power draw, so that a 750W PSU should be the minimum wattage in the Corsair lineup for that scenario (overvolted G.1), an 850W PSU would give you a large headroom.


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    Gigabyte: Nvidia GTX980Ti (or possibly the Titan)
    In gaming there will be virtually no difference between those two cards.


    Quote Originally Posted by Baron View Post
    HDD's: WD VelociRaptors 500GB/1TB
    I don't think high speed mechanical drives are the way to go, anymore, but this is just my own personal opinion.


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    Also I want to try an SSD drive - Samsung 850Pro 500GB ? - for the M.2 slot ? Very unsure about all this new tech.
    The M.2 slot should be considered for PCIe NVME drives only, like the 950 Pro, on regular SATA or AHCI drives (the vast majority) doesn't look like a deal breaker: you may give a read to relevant reviews on Anandtech/Arstechnica/The Tech Report/PC Perspective/The SSD Review (or your favourite reviewer).
    For your described uses, personally I won't crave on a PCIe NVME drive: on the other hand, I never got a PCIe NVME disk, so take that with a pinch of salt.


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    The motherboard supports this Thunderbolt thingy of which I have not much knowledge.
    Is it useful ?
    I can't help, I don't own Thundebolt peripherals.
    Best, Luca

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    Thank you for your informative reply, which I can use as a reference when the time comes to collect all the parts.

    There is so much to research, but I think I have settled on the Gigabyte Z170 G1 which would be a good match for the Corsair case 780T in white..

    Cpu: i7-6700k.
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX - DDR4 - 16 GB : 4 x 4 GB
    PSU: Corsair 850i/860iW
    Drives - probably an SSD + mechanical like a 500GB V-Raptor - will decide later.

    I was going to get the Corsair Hydro H110, but it's not compatible with the LGA 1151 board.

    To me the PSU, motherboard and cpu are my building blocks, all the rest are just parts to compliment them and can be finalised later.

    Thank you for taking the time to offer your advice/help - appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron View Post
    Thank you for taking the time to offer your advice/help - appreciated.
    You're welcome.

    If I can take the liberty, the only really active sub-forum here is the PSU one.

    Given that, maybe you might ask there about your upcoming PSU, illustrating also your proposed setup, I'm pretty confident you might gain some further comment, even if partially off topic, about all the hardware from many more knowledgeable people.

    Well, all the best!
    Best, Luca

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    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX - DDR4 - 16 GB : 4 x 4 GB
    Go for 2x8 instead. The price will be similar or less and you can add more later.

    Drives - probably an SSD + mechanical like a 500GB V-Raptor - will decide later.
    SSD (get a 256GB one at least) is fine but for the HDD go for capacity. You can get a 4TB and save money over a velociraptor.

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    Thank you both for your comments.

    Yes, memory I have already changed to: Corsair 16GB DDR4 Red Vengeance LPX 3200MHz Memory Kit for Skylake

    Is that ok ?

    For drives I have now chosen: Samsung M.2 (2280) 850 EVO 500GB SATA SSD Solid State Drive, and also will probably change the V-Raptor to a WD Caviar Blue 1TB drive, or maybe just use one from my other PC.

    Unless I go totally mad and get: LaCie 1TB Rugged Thunderbolt & USB 3.0 with inegrated Thunderbolt...

    But the chosen drives are still all a bit flexible, but just noting ideas for when the time comes to buy and build.

    I still have to chose a monitor, keyboard and mouse, and settle on gfx cards, as I might run 1 x GTX980Ti or 2 x GTX 970's for about the same price.

    decisions, decisions...

    I do appreciate your help though, and was wary of going into the motherboard, cpu or gpu sections for advice, but may do so later when I have to really decide.
    Windows 10-64bit-Windows 7 Home-64bit - Phanteks Primo case - Corsair HX850i PSU - Gigabyte Z170X Gaming G1 - i7-6700K(Bios F21) - Corsair H110i GTX AIO cooler - Corsair LPX 2 x 8GB 2666Mhz memory - Creative ZxRi Onboard sound - 2 x Samsung 950 256GB Nvme 256GB M.2 - 1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - 1 x Intel 750 400GB Pci-e - EVGA GTX FTW ACX2.0 980Ti - Dell 27" G-Sync 2560 x 1440 (main) - Dell 24" (secondary) 1920 x 1200 monitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron View Post
    For drives I have now chosen: Samsung M.2 (2280) 850 EVO 500GB SATA SSD Solid State Drive
    It's a standard SATA drive, it won't benefit of the M.2 interface, save some thermals and pick it in a more robust 2.5" format.


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    I might run 1 x GTX980Ti or 2 x GTX 970's for about the same price.
    That's not a real choice: why do you want to depend on driver and software, pump more heat and more noise into the case, and draw 50-100W more from the wall? It's always the best thing to run off one single card, one single GTX-980Ti.
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    Thank you gentlemen, for your advice.
    You can see that I am floundering about a bit trying to get the right parts.

    I agree, I think it would be better to just run the one GTX-980Ti card, so I think that is one question solved.

    Regarding your advice on the M.2 drive, then I take your advice and will take that off my list, and chose a another drive as you suggest.

    I think the only parts I can say are solved are:

    Case: Corsair 780T white.
    PSU: Corsair 850i or 860i for a bit of leeway.
    Cpu: i7-6700k
    Cooler: be quiet dark rock TF cooler
    Memory: Corsair 16GB red vengeance 3200Mhz
    Gpu: Evga GTX-980Ti or Gigabyte GTX-980Ti

    Drives, monitor, keyboard and mouse yet to be finalised.

    Am I getting there ?

    Thank you all again for taking the time to guide me in the right direction.
    Windows 10-64bit-Windows 7 Home-64bit - Phanteks Primo case - Corsair HX850i PSU - Gigabyte Z170X Gaming G1 - i7-6700K(Bios F21) - Corsair H110i GTX AIO cooler - Corsair LPX 2 x 8GB 2666Mhz memory - Creative ZxRi Onboard sound - 2 x Samsung 950 256GB Nvme 256GB M.2 - 1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - 1 x Intel 750 400GB Pci-e - EVGA GTX FTW ACX2.0 980Ti - Dell 27" G-Sync 2560 x 1440 (main) - Dell 24" (secondary) 1920 x 1200 monitors.

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