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    Quote Originally Posted by -The_Mask- View Post
    But who can? Cooler Master GM is the only "low-end" PSU which doesn't use a double forward design with group regulation, but for the price you don't get high quality caps, but some cheap CapXons.
    7 Years ago, the VX450 was ~$70-80 USD while the VX550 was ~$90-100 USD before any rebates.

    At those price points, you're looking at units like the S12G line from Seasonic.

    Meanwhile, these VS units from Corsair are in that bargain basement price bracket which only offers OEM units, Rosewill, and some other house brands some room to breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    you should expect equal to better quality in 7 years time.
    Well, even if I'd like to double "quality" every 7 years (the VX450 was 75-80USD in 2007, how much is a VS450? 45-50 USD? Here the VS350 costs about 35USD, the VS450 about 38USD), on the other hand PSUs are not chips, I mean, there's no Moore law here: or not? By the way, that S12-II is still here, and it cost about 60USD (the different, more advanced S12G is 70USD).


    Quote Originally Posted by -The_Mask- View Post
    Cooler Master GM is the only "low-end" PSU which doesn't use a double forward design with group regulation
    Isn't there also the "Active Clamp" design of the FSP Raider/Aurum and derivatives? And what about the Corsair CS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    I would argue that yes, you should expect equal to better quality in 7 years time. If a company can not bring up their bottom line quality to match products that are 7 years old in something as low cost and fast moving as electronics then they are indeed going down the drain as their product development has died.
    That's BS and you know it. When VX was new, there were only two product lines: VX and HX. Now there's seven (even when you don't count recently EOL'd TX and GS). VS didn't replace VX. VS was introduced as the lowest end product, period. Lower than even VX. VX was arguably better than most other products at its price point and below.

    When Ford introduced the Festiva in 1986, did everyone throw their hands up and say "Oh well... Ford has gone to shit!" because for the previous five years, the bottom of the line Ford was the more-than-slightly-better Escort? No. The Escort could only be made so-cheap, so they introduced the Festiva.

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    Agreed, different price brackets at release. Apples to oranges. However, Corsair's philosophy used to be "quality no matter what", but to remain solvent and profitable they had to "slip down" to "reasonable quality for a proportionate price".

    As much as I like seeing a company that is uncompromising in their approach to product and service standards, such companies are few and far between, and rarely long-term successful.

    Quote Originally Posted by quest for silence View Post
    Isn't there also the "Active Clamp" design of the FSP Raider/Aurum and derivatives? And what about the Corsair CS?
    Active-Clamp-Reset Forward (ACRF) is a primary design, those Aurums and Raiders use group regulation at secondary.
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    Exeption: Straight Power 10 and Powerzone using DC-DC on secondary. Voltage regulation is way better.

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    BeQuiet and FSP have a long-standing special relationship; I'm pretty sure our friend meant FSP's retail versions, and not modified OEM partner versions.

    But yeah, it's worth a mention I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyGURU View Post
    That's BS and you know it. When VX was new, there were only two product lines: VX and HX. Now there's seven (even when you don't count recently EOL'd TX and GS). VS didn't replace VX. VS was introduced as the lowest end product, period. Lower than even VX. VX was arguably better than most other products at its price point and below.
    Ok, so Corsair has deliberately chosen to release products that are WORSE than what they were doing 7 years ago which certainly could be thought of as going down the drain since the over product quality is regressing. It used to be that all of the products were good, now......well you have the VS, CS, and other not so good products that you have to weave your way around.

    When Ford introduced the Festiva in 1986, did everyone throw their hands up and say "Oh well... Ford has gone to shit!" because for the previous five years, the bottom of the line Ford was the more-than-slightly-better Escort? No. The Escort could only be made so-cheap, so they introduced the Festiva.
    No, because the Escort wasn't made in '79 and the Festiva was a Mazda platform that was fairly equal in quality to the early Ford Fox platform and the early stretch CE14 while being better than the 1979 Pinto. And that would be the point. The lower end Mazda platform was as good/better than the 7 year old product.

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    I took the PSU out, turned it upside down and tried to spin the fan with a pen - no noise. But in normal position the fan makes that noise. Replacement is already on its way. I am just amazed to what has happened to Corsair. Like the guru said maybe it was damaged in transit. There are no signs of any damage on the packing though.
    Quote Originally Posted by quest for silence View Post
    Can't you request a different PSU?
    It definitely is. I was not expecting VX build quality but out of shape housing an fan noise
    Quote Originally Posted by rafal_iB_PL View Post
    VS is lower end than VX was at the time.
    Which one is VS? Any Seasonic builds in entry level corsair now? After sales of Seasonic in not reliable in my country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Behemot View Post
    Besides, VX450 was Seasonic S12 II.
    Maybe that's exactly what happened. I was not expecting VX standards but was not expecting this:








    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyGURU View Post
    Why do you think Corsair is "going down the drain" simply because you received a damaged unit?

    Who knows who in what warehouse checked that thing across the room. I've seen PSUs show up where the housing is a complete parallelogram from being dropped, thrown, etc. Unfortunately, padding inside the retail box doesn't help to much. They prevent crush damage, but if you put enough G's beohind throwing or dropping a box, the PSU inside can still get damaged.



    Exactly. You bought a lower end unit than the VX and expect equal to better quality?

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    ^Looks like something torqued in shipping. I saw a case like that: the packing was all OK, but the insides showed signs of violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killswitch View Post
    It definitely is. I was not expecting VX build quality but out of shape housing an fan noise
    I wouldn't be suprised if the two issues are related. If the unit has had a bashing in shipping, then the fan's bearings might be damaged too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Killswitch View Post
    Which one is VS? Any Seasonic builds in entry level corsair now? After sales of Seasonic in not reliable in my country.
    Do you mean, Who are they made by? The VS series are made by Channel Well Tech./CWT. The only Seasonic-built Corsair PSUs now are the non-i AX series (which are much higher end).
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