congrat's on having made the "good guys" PSU review list

[IdaGno]

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/410

Other websites worth mentioning are Xbitlabs, which created their own active load for testing PSUs, Planet3Dnow, a German website that owns a Chroma 8000 machine, and JonnyGuru, that also uses a load tester (a Sunmoon SM-8800).

[Spectre]

Chroma....meh.

[jonnyGURU]

Chroma....meh.

LOL

[EsaT]

Now if people would just find that article...

For "some reason" I think that many hardware sites will NOT link to that article!

[Travis]

Actually I think Planet3DNow has made problems.
1. questionable Osillogram readings
http://www.planet3dnow.de/artikel/hardware/netzteile/oem_vs_retail/antec-12V1.png
Timescale was set at a sub-microsecond divider. Both the timescale and reading method seems rather questionable. While intel did say "ripples and noises are signals from 10Hz to 20MHz", a timescale like this definitely only reveal the high frequency components. I'm wondering where this kind of waveform comes from (maybe the rectifying Schottky's on/off switching noise), but the other lines were so flat just like Anandtech's Oscillograms show (in 4us timescale).

2. Voltage stability graphs
http://www.planet3dnow.de/artikel/hardware/netzteile/oem_vs_retail/dc-3-5-antec.png
A figure like this to describe the voltage regulation on both 5V and 3.3V outputs is misleading. On units with group regulation like FSP's and AcBel's, 5V and 3.3V regulations differ greatly. They shouldn't cover that two characteristics in this kind of figure, though you may consider the stabilities on these two lesser outputs as a whole.

Now if people would just find that article...

For "some reason" I think that many hardware sites will NOT link to that article!
Well some sites have caught a "CHROMA syndrome" that is to believe a test carried out by CHROMA is correct, while in fact they don't know how it is used. So they do have reviews on CHROMA 8000, but the articles suck, since they lack the essential description of testing methodology and configs.

Not all sites with a Chroma are included in my good-man list.
Can you introduce some good sites besides [h], SPCR, X-bit, Hardware Secrets and PCPer(who always have decent results and do a big "good job" giveaway)?

[HOOfan_1]

Well some sites have caught a "CHROMA syndrome" that is to believe a test carried out by CHROMA is correct, while in fact they don't know how it is used. So they do have reviews on CHROMA 8000, but the articles suck, since they lack the essential description of testing methodology and configs.

Not all sites with a Chroma are included in my good-man list.
Can you introduce some good sites besides [h], SPCR, X-bit, Hardware Secrets and PCPer(who always have decent results and do a big "good job" giveaway)?

Holy necro Batman

I am pretty sure that Christopher Katzer was the reviewer at Planet3Dnow when that artile was posted...he is now posting reviews for anandtech.com, although I am not impressed with them...then again often I get a :wtf: when reading an SPCR review. Driver Heaven seems to have decent PSU reviews though.

[Travis]

I am pretty sure that Christopher Katzer was the reviewer at Planet3Dnow when that artile was posted...he is now posting reviews for anandtech.com, although I am not impressed with them...then again often I get a :wtf: when reading an SPCR review. Driver Heaven seems to have decent PSU reviews though.

Wow, the same good old Chris. I see it.
That's why he used CHROMAs on both sites, draw same kind of voltage figure and make same strange readings.

SPCR's problem is that Mike Chin doesn't give the ripple figures. If he reads numbers on the CRT screen of an analog scope, then he should consider a detailed description of how he adjusts the scope and how he reads numbers from it. I think Mike can look twice on his test results, especially the parts showing incredible numbers, like ripples(sometimes rocket high and sometimes as low as hell).
I do appreciate his noise testing method, though. Not dumb SPL level numbers, but actual MP3 recordings.

As for the DH site, their resistor chasis is great but their report are just... barely readable. I mean, if you can list all numbers in a table, why should you show every screenshot and thus cover a whole page to show only a few voltage regulation results? What is worse, their results aren't well organized and analyzed, but then quickly come to the conclusion and recommendation. So I hardly get information from their report, and I think their reviews as disqualified, though they do load the PSU to its full capacity.

[Gabriel Torres]

Hi,

I created a list of websites that use load testers, see on the last page of our methodology:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/522

Cheers,
Gabriel.

[Travis]

Hi,

I created a list of websites that use load testers, see on the last page of our methodology:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/522

Cheers,
Gabriel.
Welcome, Gabe. You must've been busy these days throwing out PSU reviews nearly one per day, and I'm busy too, kept reading your test results and component analysis. And I'm glad to see that "Huntkey Titan 650W" unit reviewed by two of you out there abroad, which gives me much information. I hope I can send you Huntkey samples that's selling here in China, show you the difference on label markings and check if it has boasted its "rated output", but actually I can't. For that money I think I may buy better equipments.

For the list of websites using load testers, you may notice
PCPOP.com, IT168.com, YESKY.com and PCONLINE.com.cn
but I suggest you not include them in your list, not because their articles are in Chinese,
but their review are 200 pages full of Sxxt.

OCER.net may be reviewing several units on their home-made resistor Kilo-Watt "oven", a variac and an analog old-fashioned O-scope. I'm working on that platform right now. If I have enough samples to make an interesting review, all you guys who wanna see it will have the test methodology and data explained in English later. We follow mainly the ATX12V/EPS12V requirements, and refer to the PSU's ratings and methods from all you sites out there. And I wanna add some new criteria to create a different point of view, that is both from the absolute performance itself and the relative performance.

[Gabriel Torres]

Hi,

I haven't reviewed Huntkey Titan 650 W yet, so far I reviewed only a Huntkey Green Star 450 W (piece of crap) and that Rocketfish 700 W.

My countrymen back in Brazil are going to send me some other Huntkey models, thanks for the offer anyway! I will post a message to you if I need you help in getting more Huntkey samples!

Cheers,
Gabriel.

[jonnyGURU]

The Rocketfish 700W is a Titan 650W. They're the same thing.

[Gabriel Torres]

Thanks, I didn't know that. I will update the review!