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minaelromany
07-08-2009, 07:45 AM
Hi guys

I've had my rig for a year now and everything was running well

A month or two ago I had to back my OC a little from that in my sig because my system was not stable at all. First I suspected the summer temps (which is hell hot here in Egypt and I don't have an AC yet!)
Yestreday I bought the Sapphire TOXIC HD4890 card and CFed it to my HD4870 512MB (Stupid , yes I know) Anyway I got a nice OC with the card but didn't play with it enough
I wanted to check my PSU rails to see whether everything is ok or not and I've noticed that the 3.3v Rail outputs 3.14v , 5v Rail outputs 4.97v and 12v Rail outputs 11.87v Idle , at load the 12v Rail went down to 11.76v

Is that bad ?

Is it the cause for the OC that worked in the past not working now with my CPU/MOBO/RAM ?

Will I get nicer OC with my TOXIC if I upgraded the PSU ?

The PSU I currently have is HEC Zephyr 750 Watt and I am considering 3 PSUs in the same price range (same price here in Egypt I mean) :

1-Antec TPQ 850 Watt

2-HEC Cougar 1000Watt

3-HEC Cougar 1200Watt

I want to be covered by power so when I want to put 2 HD4870X2 cards (or 2 of the upcoming HD5870X2) I want it to be perfectly stable

Waiting for your Opinions



My rig :

C2Q Q6600 L804@3.66 (458x8) 1.525 Bios (1.480 CPU-Z) Vcore with OCZ Vendetta 2......................Now only 3.6 (400x9) .... RAM @ 1021 @2.2v
Asus Rampage Formula X48
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 4-4-4-12@DDR2 1100 5-5-5-15 2.05v
Sapphire TOXIC HD4890@1015/1125(4500 GDDR5!)
Asus MK221H 22" Widescreen LCD
1.0TB WD Black+640GB WD Blue
Audigy2 ZS-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital
HEC Zypher 750 Watt
2xBenq 1640 - LiteOn 20A4P-Pioneer 111L - Samsung 203B - NEC Optiarc AD-7200S DVD+/-RW burners
Gigabyte Aurora 3D 570 Case

370forlife
07-08-2009, 10:50 AM
I have this same psu...

Its internals are actually the same as the 650W version. Its a...midrange psu.

Not bad, but not good.

Smirnoff
07-08-2009, 12:42 PM
I wanted to check my PSU rails to see whether everything is ok

Did you use software or a DMM? Software won't be accurate. 3.14V for the 3.3V is just of out spec. The other rails are fine. But as mentioned, it all depends on what you're reading voltages with.

minaelromany
07-08-2009, 02:07 PM
I know that the PSU I currently have is mid range and that is why I wanted a High Quality (future-proof) one

I read the Voltages from BIOS as well as Everest, I don't have fancy equipment

370forlife
07-08-2009, 02:15 PM
All you need is a simple DMM.

minaelromany
07-08-2009, 02:34 PM
You mean a Digital Multimeter ?

I don't have one and I don't know how to use these things :D

I just want to get a better higher quality PSU and have tochoose from those three

I have a friend who wants to buy my PSU for a good price, and that made me think about getting another one :)

jonnyGURU
07-08-2009, 02:59 PM
You mean a Digital Multimeter ?

I don't have one and I don't know how to use these things :D

Understood. But likely false readings from the BIOS and Everest (both derived from the same source, so both equally as incorrect) are causing alarm.

DMM's are cheap and using a DMM to measure voltages is simple: http://www.bfgtech.com/bfgpower/troubleshooting.html#software

Of course, if you WANT to upgrade your PSU and someone's willing to buy your old one for a decent price, that's a whole other story.

theAnimal
07-08-2009, 03:10 PM
I assume you're planning to buy a 30" monitor since quad-Crossfire is absolutely ridiculous overkill for a 22" monitor.

minaelromany
07-08-2009, 03:25 PM
I will get a DMM tomorrow and see the voltages just to make sur that the friend who will get it will not get a faulty PSU

Is that HEC brand (Zehyr 750w specially) a good one in your opinion Jonny ?

I now have narrowed my choces to either Antec TPQ 850w (80+ Bronze) or HEC 1K (80+ Standard), which is better ?

I wanted the Corsair 850HX but it is not available here

I had a word that this bad boy would come to Egypt soon :

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...z_series_1000w

http://www.insidehw.com/images/stories/news/products/OCZ/OCZ_Z_1000W_Gold.jpg

Or the 850W Model but they may take sometime (I guess they are PCP&C )and I can't wait

@TheAnimal :

I am not planning on getting Quad-Fire setup for myself but I do alot of GPU testing and benching and 22" is really a waste of power here but I would do some 16X/24XCFAA to compensate for the lower rez :D

Mantralord
07-08-2009, 03:34 PM
Do you actually use your system to play games or just run 3dmark all day?

Hondacity
07-08-2009, 04:36 PM
pcp&c?

the zephyr's are so so...just good marketting on hec's part.
the antec tpq 850's are made by enhance...quite good..above average stuff

HOOfan_1
07-08-2009, 07:02 PM
OCZ_Z_1000W_Gold

Or the 850W Model but they may take sometime (I guess they are PCP&C )and I can't wait



HAHA, PC Power and Cooling with a large fan? No the OCZ Z series....is OCZ, just like the label says.

I hope you aren't one of those people who actually thinks PC P&C actually makes power supplies (they are not an OEM manufacturer, they contract out with OEM manufactures to design and make their PSUs, just like Corsair and OCZ)

The OCZ Z series 1000W are made by Sirfa. I would wait for a decent review with ripple measurement...(I'm talking PC Perspective, jonnyguru.com or HardOCP) before I jumped on that.

The 1000W Sirfa build units reviewed here and at HardOCP in the past have been less than stellar.

theAnimal
07-08-2009, 10:00 PM
I now have narrowed my choces to either Antec TPQ 850w (80+ Bronze) or HEC 1K (80+ Standard), which is better ?


The Antec is better, but I don't think I'd run 2x HD4870x2 with it. Only 64A on 12V and the GPUs will be using ~44A.

Galcobar
09-11-2009, 07:14 AM
Found "a" review.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/power_supply/ocz_z-series_z1000m_1000w_atx_psu/1