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ccl2003
08-19-2008, 07:31 AM
I need your comments guys. I recently got a fresh setup:

Intel C2D E7200@stock
XFX 630i-7150 Mobo
2 x 1gb Super Talent DDR2-800
Seagate 500gb 32mb cache HDD
Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 Pro HSF
Galaxy 9800GT 512mb GDDR3
Asus 20X 2014LT DVD-RW
Delta Electronics 400W GPS-400AB Rev.B

My rig is very stable so are the rails but I was thinking of upgrading my PSU either to a Corsair VX450W or HEC WinpowerAB 550W. What do you think? Should I stick to my current PSU or upgrade it for safety measure? Btw, I don't OC anymore in case you want to know.

Thanks in advance.

Super Nade
08-19-2008, 08:12 AM
Test the components first, starting with the RAM before blaming the PS. Also check your mainboard for bulging/leaking capacitors.

rip97000
08-19-2008, 08:53 AM
My rig is very stable so are the rails but I was thinking of upgrading my PSU either to a Corsair VX450W or HEC WinpowerAB 550W. What do you think? Should I stick to my current PSU or upgrade it for safety measure? Btw, I don't OC anymore in case you want to know.

Test the components first, starting with the RAM before blaming the PS. Also check your mainboard for bulging/leaking capacitors.

so why does he need to test his components?

Chilly
08-19-2008, 09:23 AM
so why does he need to test his components?

He doesn't, it was his super reflex motion :P

That being said, even at those type of PC Specs, your fine and dandy at 400W, in fact I would suspect you won't ever use more than 350Watts at full load even.

Now I'm not sure what the deltas rate as in terms of quality, but if its a good quality PSU, your fine for now until you get hit with the upgrade bug where you might need a bit more power. If you wanna future proof, go with one of the many well recommenced PSU's on here, BUT assuming its a good quality PSU, your well with in its rated wattage.

Rockfella
08-19-2008, 11:23 AM
I have no clue about your current PSU, if it is not really well reputed, VX450 will be a very wise thing to go for. Constant reliable power is most critical, VX450 gives that hands down.

Oklahoma Wolf
08-19-2008, 11:36 AM
Delta's decent. My main rig is running one (the SG-850).

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'd just keep using the Delta. Only the Corsair would be an upgrade.

Rockfella
08-19-2008, 11:45 AM
^ u think it is..... i sold my coolermaster xtreme power 600W as the 12V rail dropped down to 11.36V which is not good. VX450 stays at 11.60 with 4850. 4850 consume smore than 88gt, so u see.... PSU weaknesses dont show upfront....

HOOfan_1
08-19-2008, 11:52 AM
^ u think it is..... i sold my coolermaster xtreme power 600W as the 12V rail dropped down to 11.36V which is not good. VX450 stays at 11.60 with 4850. 4850 consume smore than 88gt, so u see.... PSU weaknesses dont show upfront....

Did you measure that yourself with a multi-meter? I would expect the VX450 to do a better job than 11.6V

Super Nade
08-19-2008, 12:47 PM
so why does he need to test his components?

Delta is a good OEM who make reliable units. RAM is more likely to fail. In any case it is more logical to troubleshoot sequentially rather than say oh hell..it's got to be the PSU...

Rockfella
08-19-2008, 01:15 PM
Well i used Everest, it can be inaccurate i know, still it is better than CM's 11.36V! Suggest any software if u can plz......
Did you measure that yourself with a multi-meter? I would expect the VX450 to do a better job than 11.6V

HOOfan_1
08-19-2008, 01:49 PM
Well i used Everest, it can be inaccurate i know, still it is better than CM's 11.36V! Suggest any software if u can plz......

Look at Supernade's signature above you. "Software Readings are Crap"

We see people on here all the time claiming OCCT, or Everest, or Speedfan or whatever the hell program they are using, reports thier 12V rail at 9V or some other ridiculous readings. I said somewhere else, that using software to read PSU voltage is like licking your finger to try to determine windspeed. For all you know the Coolermaster's actual Voltage was spot on 12.

@Supernade, the OP wasn't reporting trouble, he in fact said he was having no trouble at all. He just wondered if he should change out his PSU as a preventative measure.

ccl2003
08-19-2008, 06:11 PM
@All

Thanks for all your inputs. My system is just barely 3 weeks old and all components are new so if you're asking about bulging capacitors or failing RAM that is highly unlikely to manifest at this point.

Anyway, software readings via speedfan and everest though as you guys mentioned SW readings are crappy my system shows something like this:

+12v - idle - 12.03 - load - 11.94
+3.3v - idle - 3.04 - load - 3.03
+5.5v - idle - 5.05 - load 5.04

My current setup is stable at 3DMark06, 3DMark and PCMark Vantage, OCCT, Orthos, 1 Hour of COD4, 1 Hour of Crysis, etc.

Here's the spec of my Delta for your reference:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ccl2003/DSC00141.jpg

Thanks guys and any more inputs will be very much appreciated.

ccl2003
08-19-2008, 10:02 PM
More inputs please. Thanks!

HOOfan_1
08-20-2008, 06:48 AM
Your PSU is a 350W PSU, not a 400W PSU.
We didn't say Software readings are crappy...we said they are crap, meaning they are wrong more than they are right. If you went by software readings, your 3.3V rail would be out of ATX Spec.

Like OW said, if your system is working fine then stay with the Delta, unless you just have a burning desire to upgrade.

Zap
08-20-2008, 11:24 AM
Well i used Everest, it can be inaccurate i know, still it is better than CM's 11.36V! Suggest any software if u can plz......

For accuracy, use a multimeter. No standard monitoring software can be as accurate.

ccl2003
08-20-2008, 10:02 PM
I saw this post about my PSU here in JonnyGuru.com:http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?p=39903


05-17-2008

Travis
Speaking all those Chinglish is nightmare

Now the -D models are available here in China, EA430D and EA500D and the similar Basiq 550 Plus. I think Antec has Delta-made low-ends only for supplements. Both the Seasonic (S12-II based) ones and the Delta ones can sell well without much advertisement, and I haven't seen anyone complain about his Earthwatt or GPS-400AB/AAs dying. GPS-400AB is also a good unit, since its derivatives can bee seen in both retail products and high end branded PCs. In a Lenovo PC it is used to drive a Quad-core and a G80-Ultra, so just feel free to use a Delta-made one.
Let's see if there's more Delta-made low-end model. Frankly speaking all the low-end Delta units with APFC and group regulation look just identical. GPS-650AB would make some difference though.