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ImmortalZero
11-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Ok i had a power supply issue a few weeks ago(basicly i was a moron and didn't have enough power in my rig). I was pretty low on cash so i just went with an OKIA 650W PS and now i'm regretting it. I'm getting Hardware problems and BSOD at an alarming rate.

So i'm bringing back this POS OKIA and will be getting something better. Now i checked the Company rating guide and i found a few Power supplies from companies that are respectable and fit into my budget, just not exactly sure which would be best.

Here are the ones i am considering
Seasonic 600HT-F3BLR
Antec TruePower Trio 650W
Enermax 600W Noisetaker Series (EM-EG701AX-VE)

I was leaning towards the antec the most since its the cheapest and has 50W more than the rest but the other 2 rate better in the Company list.

Just in case these will be needed here are my system specs
A8V Motherboard
Athlon 64 3200
4x512 DDR
BFG7800 GS AGP
Creative X-FI Platinum
2X200gig WD HD
2xDVD drives
4 case fans

Thanks for any advice
madmat
11-12-2006, 05:19 PM
Did you not read Jonny's review of the Trio? After 2 of them dying inside of 5 minutes apiece at full load in the hotbox I'd be very reluctant to buy one. Go with the Seasonic, it's a bit better IMHO than the Enermax and basically is a better version of the Trio.
CAD4466HK
11-12-2006, 05:27 PM
Enermax 600W Noisetaker Series (EM-EG701AX-VE)

Enermax "may" be an ok brand in some aspects{retaining to the past}
But that is not one of their better PSU's:)
Nasgul
11-12-2006, 09:32 PM
How about the OCZ PowerStream 520W? I have that one and it's very reliable.

I use it in my 2nd rig which has a Pentium D 945 OC'd to 4.51ghz and a GeForce 6800 GS @ 500/1200.
GalvanizedYankee
11-12-2006, 11:26 PM
Why are you considering 600W+ PSUs for your present system?
A good 400W unit will power what you have and a good 500W would offer headroom for most any future single VGA card system.
madmat
11-13-2006, 07:58 AM
Why are you considering 600W+ PSUs for your present system?
A good 400W unit will power what you have and a good 500W would offer headroom for most any future single VGA card system.

Probably the same reason most of us buy large PSU's. In the event of an upgrade of major substance we won't have to double-buy on the PSU to replace one that won't work or be very marginal if it does work.

Nothing sucks worse that having a PSU that's running at 90% load all the time. They tend to start moving serious air and getting loud after an hour or so. I've found this out very quickly with this SM-268. If you allow a substantial power cushion of, say, 40% or 45% the PSU will tend to run cooler and quieter overall plus you've got a lot of playing room.
GalvanizedYankee
11-13-2006, 10:14 AM
madmat,
If the OP is not going SLI/Crossfire, a Corsair 520W would be overkill ;)
I doubt a Power Angel/Killawatt would indicate over 350 watts of draw with his present system under a full load, double ugly stress test.
Given your mind-set, we should all be running 1kw units in every machine.:p
clsA
11-13-2006, 12:30 PM
the Enhance ENP-5150GH 500W
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-E5150GH

or a Xclio Goodpower 500w are plenty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817189005
madmat
11-13-2006, 04:22 PM
madmat,
If the OP is not going SLI/Crossfire, a Corsair 520W would be overkill ;)
I doubt a Power Angel/Killawatt would indicate over 350 watts of draw with his present system under a full load, double ugly stress test.
Given your mind-set, we should all be running 1kw units in every machine.:p

It might not need it now but given the upcoming quad cores, new DX10 cards, blah blah it is possible that a simple upgrade could have a 400W running at 375W all the time under load. I dunno about you but I don't like my shit running at that percentage of fully loaded all the time. If that bugs you, freakin' sue me but I know lots of people that are of the same mindset as me.
JEDIYoda
11-13-2006, 04:31 PM
Probably the same reason most of us buy large PSU's. In the event of an upgrade of major substance we won't have to double-buy on the PSU to replace one that won't work or be very marginal if it does work.

Nothing sucks worse that having a PSU that's running at 90% load all the time. They tend to start moving serious air and getting loud after an hour or so. I've found this out very quickly with this SM-268. If you allow a substantial power cushion of, say, 40% or 45% the PSU will tend to run cooler and quieter overall plus you've got a lot of playing room.

well said!!
CAD4466HK
11-13-2006, 04:48 PM
As Tim Allen said, "More power" with a manley grunt:p
GalvanizedYankee
11-13-2006, 04:58 PM
A 500W unit of known quality is better than expensive or suspect product of higher wattage.
Over specing a PSU is an easy way to spend an extra 60~100 U$D :D

Hey OP! Are you going Quad Core or DX10? If you are that is a complete new build.
I think that is the question to ask mat...
madmat
11-13-2006, 05:23 PM
A 500W unit of known quality is better than expensive or suspect product of higher wattage.
Over specing a PSU is an easy way to spend an extra 60~100 U$D :D

Hey OP! Are you going Quad Core or DX10? If you are that is a complete new build.
I think that is the question to ask mat...

Look at what he has now...his next upgrade cycle is into PCI-e and since AM2 or 775 is all that's coming out new you know that's in the cards. If he waits a year to jump on new tech then it's a given that it'll be DX10 and most likely quad core too. You've gotta look past the whole "If he upgrades tomorrow" mindset and think about future upgrades. Kids, it's sad but PC parts are using more and more power, it's the sad fact of life. Ever since the X86's came out each stage of evolution of the PC has demanded more and more from PSU's. If that wasn't the case we'd still be using 235W PSU's and doing the hard calculations on slide rules.
CAD4466HK
11-13-2006, 05:38 PM
Don't forget Moore's Law,unless it's dead:p
ImmortalZero
11-14-2006, 02:03 PM
My plan with this PSU is to transfer it over to my next rig which will most likely be quad core with a DX10 card. The way i see it if i am forced to get a new Powersupply i may as well go and get something good that way i wont have to buy a new one when i build my next rig.

I'm leaning towards the seagate right now but i also have the chance to get my hands on a OCZ GameXstream 700W for cheap but the fact that it exceeded the 120mV allowance has me worried.
jonnyGURU
11-14-2006, 02:18 PM
DX10 card

I'm not being sarcastic.. and don't tease me... but I thought DX10 was software (DirectX 10)... not a card. :(
GilmourD
11-14-2006, 03:25 PM
I'm not being sarcastic.. and don't tease me... but I thought DX10 was software (DirectX 10)... not a card. :(

I t

hink a lot of people are using the term "DX10 card" just to say that it's a card that supports all the features of the DX10 instruction set.
madmat
11-14-2006, 03:29 PM
DX10 has become the term for the new next-gen cards. G80, R-umpity billionth, what have you. Funny though is that unless you move to Vista you'll never use the DX10 capabilities since it won't be making an appearance on an XP computer near you.
GilmourD
11-14-2006, 03:36 PM
DX10 has become the term for the new next-gen cards. G80, R-umpity billionth, what have you. Funny though is that unless you move to Vista you'll never use the DX10 capabilities since it won't be making an appearance on an XP computer near you.

Already running RC1 and waiting for a chance to install RC2. Too bad I don't have the deniros for an 8800... LOL
CAD4466HK
11-14-2006, 03:37 PM
Funny though is that unless you move to Vista you'll never use the DX10 capabilities since it won't be making an appearance on an XP computer near you.

What he said:D