BFG 8800GTX card only needs a 400W PSU?

[jonnyGURU]

I just got an 8800GTX 768MB.

The box says that the minimum requirements are that the PSU offers at least 30A on the 12V rail for the entire system.

Also, the card has two PCI-e connectors.

Sorry about the crappy photos. I had to use my cell phone because my wife is using the Canon.

[CAD4466HK]

I just got an 8800GTX 768MB.

The box says that the minimum requirements are that the PSU offers at least 30A on the 12V rail for the entire system.

Also, the card has two PCI-e connectors.

Sorry about the crappy photos. I had to use my cell phone because my wife is using the Canon.

400w??????????:eek:
If thats the case, my Neo should be able to power it!

[clsA]

Their you go, the Proof is in the pudding

Funny how all that speculation is almost always wrong

Can't wait for your review ...Get to Work!

[jonnyGURU]

Can't wait for your review ...Get to Work!

I SUCK at CPU/GPU/RAM reviews because I throw benchmarks out there that everyone always wants to argue with.

Let someone else be that punching bag. ;) All I know is the 8800GTX is working perfectly in a rig powered by a Silverstone ST60F. :D

[Spectre]

I bet it'll run on less though ;)

[Slartibartfast]

768mb? We're still at a point where jumping from 256 to 512 doesn't make an enormous difference save for a few games. Then again, of course they'd want to generate buzz over their flagship offering.

[madmat]

Ok, I gotta ask...why is there a pic of either short-necked geese or huge friggen pigeons in there? Did they deliver the card? ;)

[CAD4466HK]

768mb? We're still at a point where jumping from 256 to 512 doesn't make an enormous difference save for a few games. Then again, of course they'd want to generate buzz over their flagship offering.

768mb of GDDR3 will decrease the load times of certain games
that use Ultrahigh settings at 1600x1200 and up, meaning that the app
dosen't have to compress large maps that are smaller then 768mb, but
larger then 512mb, A.K.A Quake 4, Doom 3, BF2, ES4, G.R.A.W ect. :)

[jonnyGURU]

Ok, I gotta ask...why is there a pic of either short-necked geese or huge friggen pigeons in there? Did they deliver the card? ;)

Oops... Those were the ducks hanging out outside of the Subway Sandwich joint. I was waiting for an oil change next door and thought it was cool that they were begging for bread. :D

[Sphere]

I'm jealous :D are you able to answer any questions other than power requirements. or does the NDA have your tongue?

As far as testing, just run 3D Mark '06 and let the scores speak for themselves.

Sphere

[Oklahoma Wolf]

I'm jealous

Me too. I think I'll go scold my wallet for not letting me get one too ;)

[Sphere]

Me too. I think I'll go scold my wallet for not letting me get one too ;)

I hear that :) I plan to scoop one up immediately as they become available...it's only money, it all burns the same :wall:

Sphere

[jonnyGURU]

I'm jealous :D are you able to answer any questions other than power requirements. or does the NDA have your tongue?

As far as testing, just run 3D Mark '06 and let the scores speak for themselves.

Sphere

NDA?!? It's a retail card out of a retail box. :p

I know nothing about actual power requirements and I've asked nVidia and they say that they can't give out the information. All I can say is that the box says "you should have a PSU with 30A on the +12V rail."

And the rest of the PC can't keep up w/ the video card, so I doubt 3DMark scores will say much. But I might give it a go and post the results.

[Spectre]

NDA?!? It's a retail card out of a retail box. :p

I know nothing about actual power requirements and I've asked nVidia and they say that they can't give out the information. All I can say is that the box says "you should have a PSU with 30A on the +12V rail."


Well it seems like it is time for us to figure it out then :D

[factory81]

I dislike 3D Mark or other...fake or biased grading systems for hardware.
Beauty cannot be expressed in marks or FPS.
You need real world apps.
Some rely more on cpu or gpu. But you know whats up,and FRAPS is out of the question, screenshots work but are large in size.
Playing the latest games, any games that use any of the new technology offered. Try the HD capabilities. Also play the games at resolutions that should bring a system to a hault.

Also if you have an E6400 or e6600 to review with, it would be cool to overclock them at diff. ranges for comparisons. How much does the better cpu compliment the GPU, and faster MHZ / lower memory timings? Overclock the GPU once youve finally shown how the cpu's react with the GPU performance, and let us know how the power supply is doing, THEN test like as many PSU's as you can to tell us what flunks the test.
Let us know how well the tier 1-2-3 psu's rank and if they can pull overclocked bad boys off.

Screenshots / gaming benchmarks / HD capability review / drivers and their issues / DX version your using , and blah blah.

I just dislike aquamark or 3d mark.

Bungholio marks if you ask me.....
Maybe the E6600's 4mb of cache will be justified with a faster GPU at the helm?

[Bbq]

Looks great, my address is..

:p

[jonnyGURU]

I dislike 3D Mark or other...fake or biased grading systems for hardware....

See what I mean? :lol:

It's just something I'd rather not get wrapped up in.

I'll do some half ass benchmarks, admit that they're half ass... whatever. But I'll leave the real reviews to sites like Hard OCP, Anandtech, whatever... :D

[Sphere]

Fair enough. If you would happen to run 3d mark with a stock setup, I'm interested in the numbers for comparison.

I'd also be more than happy to purchase it from you :D


Sphere

[Slartibartfast]

768mb of GDDR3 will decrease the load times of certain games
that use Ultrahigh settings at 1600x1200 and up, meaning that the app
dosen't have to compress large maps that are smaller then 768mb, but
larger then 512mb, A.K.A Quake 4, Doom 3, BF2, ES2, G.R.A.W ect. :)

Ah, that's a good point :) Not too up on videocards, the newest pc game I own is FarCry....

I tend to keep 3Dmark around mostly as a stress test and a way to let me know if something is working oddly. I find that running it on a new videocard right away is a good idea, just in case you got a lemon. I don't put much stock in the numbers, though.

[Sphere]

Any chance you can give a price on what they will cost? I'm sure you've seen the invoices from multiple manufacturers ;)

Sphere

[CAD4466HK]

Ah, that's a good point :) Not too up on videocards, the newest pc game I own is FarCry....


The only thing that game stresses, is the CPU:)

[Slartibartfast]

The only thing that game stresses, is the CPU:)

Haha now you know I really don't pay attention.

[CAD4466HK]

Haha now you know I really don't pay attention.

If you want to give "all" your hardware a workout, these 3 will set
you off;)

F.E.A.R-G.R.A.W-Prey:D

[jonnyGURU]

Any chance you can give a price on what they will cost? I'm sure you've seen the invoices from multiple manufacturers ;)

Sphere


XFX 8800GTS 640MB 500MHz $509
XFX 8800GTX 768MB 570MHz $679
eVGA N821 8800GTS 640MB $499
eVGA N831 8800GTX 768MB $669
Asus EN8800GTS/HTDP 640MB $459
Asus EN8800GTX/HTDP 768MB $609
MSI NX8800GTS 640MB $519
MSI NX8800GTX 768MB $689
BFG 8800GTS 640MB $499
BFG 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 $679
These prices are based on my cost plus your typical "mom and pop" VAR markup. Some retail store (Best Buy, CompUSA) prices may be higher. With back end rebates, co-op, etc., some e-tail (Newegg, Tiger, etc.) will likely be lower.

[Sphere]

Thank you very much, looks like a broke man I will be :wall:

[Skott]

The box says that the minimum requirements are that the PSU offers at least 30A on the 12V rail for the entire system.





Okay, what does this mean for those planning on getting a multi-rail psu to run this or two in SLI as far as requirements go?

[factory81]

Aquamark, 3D Mark, and any benchmark you see Nvidia, Intel, or AMD brag a benchmark you know the company wants it to perform well on the chipset they designed.

I could see any of the big 4 companies out offering a large cash amount to make benchmark benefit their system.

If you were Nvidia or AMD, and you had an audience of many gamers that responded to benchmark programs. You would make sure your cards perform damn well in them benchmarks that influence buying.

You don't play 3d Mark or any of them, so the point of seeing how well they perform is pointless. You do however play games....but sadly your games don't support most of what the new cards are out to change.
CS:Source, Quake 4, UT2K4, any Need for Speed, Call of Duty 2, whatever....all it is...games developed years ago running on top of the line hardware.

Crysis and UT2K7, HD video out, and DX10 are some examples of things we need to try and test these card's with.
Plus drivers always make a world of a change we all know.

Oblivion Elder Scrolls, while I don't play it, is supposed to be tough on a system.

Everyone is anxious to say it sucks, so they can rationalize a reason not to buy it, because they just blew $800+ on a new system :)


Duh we know that smaller nm card's will be out in the future, duh competition will come. And as always slower, and faster card's are released to sell to certain audiences as competition changes.

The demand is obvious, so the more demand, and the slower the competition. The more the cost.....

[CAD4466HK]

Aquamark, 3D Mark, and any benchmark you see Nvidia, Intel, or AMD brag a benchmark you know the company wants it to perform well on the chipset they designed.

I could see any of the big 4 companies out offering a large cash amount to make benchmark benefit their system.

If you were Nvidia or AMD, and you had an audience of many gamers that responded to benchmark programs. You would make sure your cards perform damn well in them benchmarks that influence buying.

You don't play 3d Mark or any of them, so the point of seeing how well they perform is pointless. You do however play games....but sadly your games don't support most of what the new cards are out to change.
CS:Source, Quake 4, UT2K4, any Need for Speed, Call of Duty 2, whatever....all it is...games developed years ago running on top of the line hardware.

Crysis and UT2K7, HD video out, and DX10 are some examples of things we need to try and test these card's with.
Plus drivers always make a world of a change we all know.

Oblivion Elder Scrolls, while I don't play it, is supposed to be tough on a system.

Everyone is anxious to say it sucks, so they can rationalize a reason not to buy it, because they just blew $800+ on a new system :)


Duh we know that smaller nm card's will be out in the future, duh competition will come. And as always slower, and faster card's are released to sell to certain audiences as competition changes.

The demand is obvious, so the more demand, and the slower the competition. The more the cost.....

Dude, Quake 4 came out less then a year ago, why would you put that game in the same catagory as CS:S and UT2004?
Just because it takes years to develop a game, does not mean the programers are not incorperating the new tech every step of the way.
Which brings us to patches,fixes,updates,releases to stay current with todays standards,hence the dual-core patch for Q4.

But as we all know, Q4 derived from D3's engine with minor tweaks for
mass spawning and bigger maps vs. soft shadows and heavy shader textureing.
Doom 3 would of been a far better choice of game to list then Q4:)

BTW-Why do you think ID's slogan is: "It will be done when it's done"
other then the leaks and so forth?
That's why it takes them so long to release a game,just when it's right , a
new tech hits the street and has to be streamlined.
I've had plenty of games tell me that there was a patch available the first time I installed it. And I pre-order all my games so I can get them the first day.
Dude, I'm just sitting here rambling, my bad:p

[jonnyGURU]

Okay, what does this mean for those planning on getting a multi-rail psu to run this or two in SLI as far as requirements go?

For multi-rail PSU's, you look at the combined wattage for the 12V rail and divide by 12.

For SLI, refer to the SLI list in the other thread until I find out any new information. :D

[SuperSix]

XFX 8800GTS 640MB 500MHz $509
XFX 8800GTX 768MB 570MHz $679
eVGA VCX N821 8800GTS 640MB $499
eVGA VCX N831 8800GTX 768MB $669
Asus VCX EN8800GTS/HTDP 640MB $459
Asus VCX EN8800GTX/HTDP 768MB $609
MSI VCX NX8800GTS 640MB $519
MSI VCX NX8800GTX 768MB $689
BFG VCX 8800GTS 640MB $499
BFG VCX 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 $679
These prices are based on my cost plus your typical "mom and pop" VAR markup. Some retail store (Best Buy, CompUSA) prices may be higher. With back end rebates, co-op, etc., some e-tail (Newegg, Tiger, etc.) will likely be lower.

Copy-n-paster! :@

Strange that the Asus GTS is the cheapest of the bunch - I'll need to check that I gave you the right cost.

[jonnyGURU]

Copy-n-paster! :@

Strange that the Asus GTS is the cheapest of the bunch - I'll need to check that I gave you the right cost.

Think I could've copied and pated that mess you gave me? ;)

I had typed all that in by hand. ;)

[krampak]

Radeon X1950 XTX
Idle: 184
Load: 308W

GeForce 8800GTX
Idle:229W
Load: 321W

Power consumption was measured using a Kill-A-Watt power meter that measures a power supply’s power draw directly from the wall outlet. The power supply used in the test system is a Thermaltake Toughpower that carries an efficiency rating up to 85%.
DailyTech previously reported NVIDIA recommends a 450-watt power supply for a single GeForce 8800GTX graphics card. This isn’t too farfetched of a recommendation. Power consumption of NVIDIA’s GeForce 8800GTX isn’t as bad as expected. When compared to AMD’s current flagship ATI Radeon X1950 XTX, the GeForce 8800GTX only consumes 24% more power at idle. The power consumption differences under load decreases to around 4%. Considering the performance differences, the GeForce 8800GTX is no worse than AMD’s ATI Radeon X1950 XTX in terms of performance-per-watt.
Source (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4812)

[Spectre]

Whole system power draw is 13w higher than a x1950 XTX. Well I don't look quite as stupid for saying the hit shouldn't be so bad :lol:

[jonnyGURU]

Thanks for the link. Was reading that earlier and plan to post it up front page.

Also, do keep these early benchmarks into perspective. These apps aren't necessarily running the G80 to it's full potential. The word is still that the card will take as much as 225W at full bore.

[burebista]

Oops, some problems with 8800GTX? A quote from a email from a well known manufacturer to all his resellers:
Dear All,

we have some bad information prior to the launch of G80 for you

We have been informed by NVIDIA that there is an issue with a specific resistor, which needs to be changed on all 8800GTX boards shipped todate.

Please keep all boards in stock or take them back immediately so that we can issue an RMA.
We will let you know Monday where to ship them to.
7900GT(X) problems reloaded?

[krampak]

A link to that:

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/11/06/nvidia_recalls_geforce_8800_gtx_batch/

[Skyguy]

Wow, that's a real kick in the PR groin to Nvidia.

[chou10030529]

i live in taiwan and the IT department just ordered 2 asus 8800gtx for me and it was 54000 nt for two cards translating into 824.18 USD per card

maybe pricing was off ~?

An a Leadtek 8800 gtx, avalible now in taiwan is 24300 nt per card translating into 741.76 USD

or was it because i live in a place were computer parts simply come expensive.....~?

[jonnyGURU]

You got jacked. ;)

$54,000 NTD. That's like 400 MosBurger value meals!!!!

[chou10030529]

However, everywhere I looked, went to kuan hua computer market or watever you want to call it today, even though only a *very* few retailers have the actual card in their hands, everybody knows that taiwan just simply wont wait for anything and oftenly you find things out early, they are all in the 7XX+ USD range even for those shitty cards by leadtek. :wall:

Very depressed, seems that my new computer is going to break the 200K nt price range:(

http://www.coolpc.com.tw/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6379
one of the retailers opening his first 8800 gtx if you can read chinese and navigate around the web you would notice that he is actually opening it right in his shop. Leadtek 24300 nt :wall:

[Skott]

Well, I expected the 8800GTX to be listed for at least $600 American but I wouldnt be suprised if some places want over $700 American in the first week. People who must have the bragging rights will gobble up the first batches. Once supply kicks though in you'll see those prices drop.

[jonnyGURU]

Well, I expected the 8800GTX to be listed for at least $600 American but I wouldnt be suprised if some places want over $700 American in the first week. People who must have the bragging rights will gobble up the first batches. Once supply kicks though in you'll see those prices drop.

I don't think so.

There is no "shortage" of the cards.

In fact, even with the "recall", I talked to someone that works for a VAR that RMA'd their inventory of eVGA, XFX and BFG on Monday and already got replacement product on it's way in time for tomorrow's launch.

If anyone pays more than the prices I listed after tomorrow's launch (pre-launch product in Taiwan being the exception) they're stupid.

[Hutch]

I can do a real good review on several different systems if you'd like ;)

[chou10030529]

ASUS Taiwan just called me today, yes THE ASUS, and informed me that the suggested retail price of ASUS's 8800 GTX is 27990 NTD per card which equals to 852.06 USD

It was not some retailer trying to make a quick buck by over pricing, it was ASUS that called me today at around noon in Taiwan time (GMT + 8) which means around 00:00 EST, the start of new day on the east coast. Other than informing me the suggested retail price, they also informed me that as of today it is officially on the market, so no more hiding of information. :cool:


Therefore.... Shivers.....


Feeling that bank account balance shrinking already~:wall:

[jonnyGURU]

Hmm.... Odd. The prices I revealed were based on 15 points above my cost from a tier 1 distributor. Although MSRP tends to be on the high side, I wouldn't expect it to be twice cost.

Very interesting that the prices are that high in Taiwan. I bought my AM2 over there the day they cam out (PC Club, I believe) and the price was very reasonable.

[chou10030529]

Who knows~?

maybe the president suddenly decided to charge an extra 50% tax on all consumer electronic products!:eek: JKJK

But seriously, I was also under the impression that computer parts are cheaper in Taiwan. However, right now, the difference in the prices makes me reconsider the possibility of ordering from US rebated e-tailers and shiping it to Taiwan :wall: It just might be cheaper~

What do you think I should do?

[jonnyGURU]

Find someone to ship it to you from the US?!??

Over here, one of the retails I know of have all of the 8800 GTX cards (768MB) going for $649 (Asus, BFG, PNY, eVGA and XFX.)

Think it would cost another $200 to ship it back to Taiwan? :wall:

[chou10030529]

200 USD to ship one card or two~?
or is it $200 to ship one and something like $250 to ship two at once?

649*2=1298 + 200 = 1498 USD
852.06*2= 1704.12 USD
1704.12-1498= $206.12

If the shipping cost of two card is $200 then I say its worth is since $206.12 is still alot of money

If the benefit is less than $100 then I say forget about it


btw my keyboard and mouse is mx 5000 which is not avalible in Taiwan, I had one of my friends bring it back from the states, mayber that is a alternative too.


:wall: I hate the prices~!

whoo! 8800 category is now on the asus official webpage!

[jonnyGURU]

I don't know what it would cost to ship.

I was just saying, with the $200 price difference between what I'm seeing in the US and what you're seeing in Taiwan, it would be worth it to order it from the US and have it shipped to Taiwan if it cost less than $200. ;)

[Spectre]

It will cost less than 200 to ship it insured unless your duty is exceedingly high. Or at least it doesn't cost me that much to ship to Australia or Indonesia.

[chou10030529]

well if it costs less than $200 to ship to australia then I'm pretty sure that its going to cost less to ship to taiwan, therefore it would be definitly worth it ;)

whoo bringing this to the sixth page :cool:

btw I'm going to paste the parts I'm planning to use to build my new computer, some feed back would be nice :D


Item Manufacturer Price Per Unit (Approx) Amount
ASUS Striker-Extreme Asus $260 1
Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 @ 2.66GHz Intel $999 1
Geforce 8800 GTX (EN8800GTX/HTDP 768MB) Asus $609 2
TWIN2X2048-8500C5D Corsair $575 1
WD Raptor 150 GB (WD1500ADFD) (150GB in RAID 0) Western Digital $220 2
PhysX P1 Asus $240 1
Enermax Galaxy 1000 Watt PSU (EGA1000EWL) Enermax $320 1
Sony DRU-830A (black) Sony $62 1
SAMSUNG SH-S182M (black) SAMSUNG $32 1
Thermaltake Kandalf LCS VD4000BWS Thermaltake $277 1
Thermaltake Aqua Brazing All Copper Series W1 Thermaltake $45 1
Thermaltake AquaBay M1 Thermaltake $52 1
Thermaltake AquaBay M5 Thermaltake $35 1
Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional-64 CD-ROM w/manuals/act.reg Genuine $139 1
Dell™ UltraSharp™ 3007WFP 30-inch Wide-screen Flat Panel LCD Monitor Dell $1,274 1

Total (USD) $5,748
Total (NT) $189,109


the price labeled are the lowest price found and suggested on the web
these are just the first step, I'm planning to OC this comp in all aspects and turn it into a completly water cooled solution and add a sound blaster card, not possible before a water cooled solution is implimented since the heat sink of the 8800 take up too much space, and even a third graphics card that is dedicated for Havok FX physics in the future.

note some of the smaller parts such as Dual DVI cables UV tubbing and UV coolent are not included in the chart;)

[Skott]

The 's' in MSRP stands for 'suggested'. Its not a written law the stores have to sell it for that. They can sell it lower or higher at their descretion. Usually supply/demand dictates the prices. Look at the past year or two in the video card industry. Usually the first week demand is so high that the stores jack up the prices. Yes, those that pay those high prices are fools in my opinion but those are the ones that money doesnt matter really. Thats why I never buy a new card in the first two weeks of the launch. Let the fools get theirs first then I'll get mine when prices are reasonable. I dont think this launch is going to be any different than past launches.

[jonnyGURU]

All 8800GTX cards are $649, all GTS cards are $499:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/partners/nvidia/8800GTXGTS.asp

[Nasgul]

Usually the first batch of new gen cards are very expensive, I hope the 2nd gen (6 months from now) are not going to cost an arm and a leg. I was hopping to get a GTS or GTX but I'm afraid is not going to happen now.

I spent this much money for my current rig but $500 is out of my price range that I'm willing to shell out on a card. I got a mortgage to pay fellas.

BTW, if the GTX only requires 400W, how come it requires two PCI-Ex16 power connectors?

I'm also curious as to why the new G80s are not overclocked from factory like previous GPUs, I mean BFG started this whole trend and now everyone seems to just have stopped on it. Is nVidia behind this now? Or was it because with the reduction in die the more volatile to OC are there new GPUs?

[Spectre]

I'm also curious as to why the new G80s are not overclocked from factory like previous GPUs, I mean BFG started this whole trend and now everyone seems to just have stopped on it. Is nVidia behind this now? Or was it because with the reduction in die the more volatile to OC are there new GPUs?

Remember all those burned up 7900GT's?

For NVIDIA casrds I do believe Gainward was before BFG.

[CAD4466HK]

For NVIDIA casrds I do believe Gainward was before BFG.

Winfast/Leadtek GF2 Ultra:)

[Spectre]

Winfast/Leadtek GF2 Ultra:)

I remember those......hmmm...for some reason though I ddin't think they were a deviation from reference though..........

[CAD4466HK]

I remember those......hmmm...for some reason though I ddin't think they were a deviation from reference though..........

The Winfast/Leadtek GF2 Ultra, had a 30Mhz bump on the core and a 20Mhz
bump on the memory{330/520}, compared to the other Ultra's{300/500},:)

BTY: The ASUS V7700 Ultra {GF2 Ultra} had just a bump on the core at 15Mhz{315/500}

The Winfast and the ASUS were the shizit of their day;)

[Spectre]

Yeah I was still using a VooDoo 5 5500 at that point. I didn't switch until I got a Gainward GeForce 3.

[CAD4466HK]

Yeah I was still using a VooDoo 5 5500 at that point. I didn't switch until I got a Gainward GeForce 3.

My dad is still running a Golden Sample GF3 Ti 4200 64Mb:eek:

[spaceman]

You guys think the corsair 620w power supply would be able to handle the 8800 GTX card? Im thinking of getting oen and smash my ati x1900xt i just dont have the money for a new power supply =)

[krampak]

Of course it will.
My dad is still running a Golden Sample GF3 Ti 4200 64Mb
There was no GF3 Ti4200 if I remember correctly... it's GF4 Ti4200 or even GF3 Ti200 and GF3 Ti500.

[jonnyGURU]

You guys think the corsair 620w power supply would be able to handle the 8800 GTX card?

And then some.

You saw the subject of the thread, right? ;)

[Slartibartfast]

Yeah, I've got a GF3 Ti 200 in a box in a closet...

[Spectre]

Of course it will.

There was no GF3 Ti4200 if I remember correctly... it's GF4 Ti4200 or even GF3 Ti200 and GF3 Ti500.

That would be correct AFAIK for reference designs.

[CAD4466HK]

Of course it will.

There was no GF3 Ti4200 if I remember correctly... it's GF4 Ti4200 or even GF3 Ti200 and GF3 Ti500.

You got me, GF3 TI 200:p
My bad:o

[Manny Calavera]

I mean BFG started this whole trend and now everyone seems to just have stopped on it. Is nVidia behind this now? Or was it because with the reduction in die the more volatile to OC are there new GPUs?


Actually,it was Hercules that started the whole shipping Nv cards pre overclocked from the factory,with the TNT1 @ 98/125.I bought one
at launch from TigerDirect.

[Skott]

I got a GF3 Ti500 in an old eMachine. Still runs far as I know. Its sitting in my closet.

[Kab]

I SUCK at CPU/GPU/RAM reviews because I throw benchmarks out there that everyone always wants to argue with.

Let someone else be that punching bag. ;) All I know is the 8800GTX is working perfectly in a rig powered by a Silverstone ST60F. :D
Its easily possible and like you say, its just hype. :mad:
I ran a 768MB GDDR3 SLI 2x XFX8800GTX XXX (630MHz core-2GHz memory) with a 3.65GHz OC'd Kentsfield and 4x1 GB PC2-8888 OCZ XMS2 Twin2X2 RAM, some nifty watercooling (Zalman Reserator 1), over 5TB worth of HDDs: 2x1.5TB (Firewire800), 1TB (USB2.0), Maxtor DiamondMax10 IDE 82GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache, (connected when needed) Seagate Cheetah 73.4GB 8MB Cache Ultra320 SCSI 15,000 RPM, (connected when needed) Seagate Cheetah 146GB 8MB Cache Ultra320 SCSI 15,000 RPM, 2xRAID 150GB WD Raptor 10,000 RPM SATA 16MB Cache with Areca ARC-1210 - PCIe x8 RAID Controller, WD Caviar 500GB..(internal and external), a 5.25" Sunbeam 20-in-1 card reader with a h/ware monitor/display unit, an LG Blu-Ray Recorder (single layer :(), an LG CDRW/DVDRW combo drive, a Sony 1.44MB floppy drive in a Thermaltake Armour for professional work; on a Seasonic S12-650 (650W) perfectly for just over a month before moving to the Galaxy IKW. So yes its easily possible for anyone out there wanting to know, but be aware, I recommend 1000W for a setup lie my work system has. :D

[burebista]

Kab, OMFG for what work system do you have! :eek:
Thanks for your confirmation about what a 650W good PSU can handle. :beer:

[Kab]

LOL! I didn't think its much of a deal TBH. No gaming on it BTW, strictly medical work running pretty much 24/7 so its not like I get much personal use out of it that anyone else doesn't. :( I'm after an AMD CPU though...

I still like my Duron M7 better :D and you're welcome with my cent. ;)

[PaulTa]

I think it's a sin to never run a game on that thing... :(