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ianm2
04-01-2007, 10:25 AM
ok, my current setup is pretty stable, best its ever been, using xp.

but its still not ideal, after a while, things seem to get a little corrupted, and slow downs, and bloating and all that.

In the past, I must have done about 20 formats and reinstalls after things stopping working properly, so I want to avoid that again.

what's it to do with...registry getting corrupted?

...I use firefox on line which is superb and keeps nasties away.

I'm preparing to change my system from amd to intel, its getting about time, so for a clean sweep, I am wondering a few things...

my current a8nsli has been great along with the amd cpu, but its time for something like a p5b methinks.

how do you prevent this sort of thing from happening?

One way I have thought of, is using separate hard drives for differing purposes...viz. one for games, and one for the web.

I do defrag from time to time, but that's only hard disk file shifting

Are there any better ways to do it?, just having redundancy wouldn't prevent things from going wrong in that way, would they?

And don't say get linux;)

So, what's the best way to manage a multi purpose rig with hard drives to keep everything optimal and from getting degraded, please

I have looked a little into raid and its a bit of a can of worms. there's a lot more to it away from the basics, but that's probably for real pro's

thanks

doublejack
04-04-2007, 11:40 AM
Unfortunately, it can't be prevented. Windows rots over time and the problem is the registry. It's just a flawed design. Pretty much every program writes to and reads from the registry, and due to bugs, program crashes, or just plain sloppiness - the registry eventually becomes a huge mess. Think about it like a community bathroom in a college dorm... one that nobody every cleans. Yeah, disgusting.

What I have done is once you get the computer set up and working just like you want it, use a program like Norton Ghost to make an image of the drive. That way when Windows gets bloated and slows down, you don't have to reinstall everything - you just restore the image and you're up and running very quickly.

ianm2
04-04-2007, 11:55 AM
good idea, thanks

..more hints very welcome,

not many responses sadly.

Spectre
04-04-2007, 11:56 AM
I can honestly say I have never experienced degradation as you speak of it.

Do you run as a user or admin?



ok, my current setup is pretty stable, best its ever been, using xp.

but its still not ideal, after a while, things seem to get a little corrupted, and slow downs, and bloating and all that.

In the past, I must have done about 20 formats and reinstalls after things stopping working properly, so I want to avoid that again.

what's it to do with...registry getting corrupted?

...I use firefox on line which is superb and keeps nasties away.

I'm preparing to change my system from amd to intel, its getting about time, so for a clean sweep, I am wondering a few things...

my current a8nsli has been great along with the amd cpu, but its time for something like a p5b methinks.

how do you prevent this sort of thing from happening?

One way I have thought of, is using separate hard drives for differing purposes...viz. one for games, and one for the web.

I do defrag from time to time, but that's only hard disk file shifting

Are there any better ways to do it?, just having redundancy wouldn't prevent things from going wrong in that way, would they?

And don't say get linux;)

So, what's the best way to manage a multi purpose rig with hard drives to keep everything optimal and from getting degraded, please

I have looked a little into raid and its a bit of a can of worms. there's a lot more to it away from the basics, but that's probably for real pro's

thanks

ianm2
04-04-2007, 11:58 AM
errr user I think

well I have admin tools on the control panel and logged in on user accounts as an admin, so I guess admin!!

...only just getting to grips with this whole pc thing after years....some things I know a lot on, eg. hardware, I only just found out how to access some other bits, too:o ( like system info, and even what my cpu was, yes I know very sad indeed, but I never bought most bits new, chosen, it just came together s/h) but its really that I never investigated and just used the thing.

MOSTLY...it happens with dodgy downloads, mozilla has done a lot for that, but also, a lot of crap freeware is to blame, which I learned pretty quick to avoid like the plague

but it still happens, allbeit more slowly, there is a fair amount of different programs on, which doesn't help

hence why I was thinking of separating applications by hard drive

TLH
04-04-2007, 06:09 PM
Well if you upgrade to the P5B you'll be re-installing again anyway so no problems there.

Windows does slow down a little over time I agree,not to the point where it's a problem though I don't think.If you are thinking it's sluggish you could try Regseeker (http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm) to clean your registry of old defunct entries.I've never known it do harm and you get to make a back-up before deleting stuff anyway.

Easiest way to keep a clean system is keep the OS on a small partition.It's easy just re-installing once ever 6 months or so if you have good habits and keep the desktop clean.I generally leave mine till I need to hardware changes,maybe once a year if I'm lucky.

templar_m1a1
04-04-2007, 09:15 PM
CCleaner works well, it is like "Disk Cleanup" on steroids. Here is a link: http://www.ccleaner.com/

ianm2
04-05-2007, 05:11 AM
Easiest way to keep a clean system is keep the OS on a small partition..

hmm not quite sure what you mean there, I thought the os and all progs that it ran had to be on the same partition?

TLH
04-05-2007, 07:04 AM
Should be read in conjunction with the rest of the statement.What I mean is it's easy to just reinstall if you keep only the OS on partition.Keep games,etc on D:/ and you don't end up reinstalling everything,just the OS.

Sir_ReeL
04-06-2007, 11:54 PM
Any programs can be kept on a seperate partition or hard disk. Just point the shortcut to the *.exe.

I've found a good regestry cleaner can be a godsend. It will get rid of crap left over from an un-install, many programs don't do a very good job of cleaning up after themselves.(*cough*Symantic/Norton*cough*) I happen to use "Regestry Mechanic", it's never killed anything. Your milage may vary, I suppose.

Untill recently, I've been useing a 4 year old load of Win2000 with no noticable slowups. And I try a lot of proggies. Still useing Win2000, by the way, I see no reason to buy Xp, let alone Vista/Visa whatever. So call me a Luddite!

_ReeL

Telstar
06-15-2007, 08:26 AM
Yeah, I didnt experience big slowdowns unless i played with the OS trying all kind of software.

If you dont do that and use regularly a defragmenter (diskeeper is the best) and a cleaner (CC cleaner and Registry mechanic are my favourite), you could go years without a reinstall.

My OS history:
-laptop: winME (crap), win2000 (stable and not a resource hog)
-music rig: XP Pro (didnt last long), Server 2003 (rock solid), Vista x86 RC1, Vista x86 ultimate retail
-gaming rig: Server 2003 32bit SP2 & Vista x64 ultimate (dual boot)