View Full Version : Confirmed at CeBIT: Big daddy R600 set to release
Jon, you really didn't need the strike tag afterall :p
30th March all set: :D
R600 in action - demo pics:
R600 is on 65nm ;)
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03-15-2007, 10:55 PM
More news from Friday http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=136269
03-16-2007, 09:11 AM
These sites really need to get their act together. :rolleyes: R600 is 80nm. RV610 and RV630 are 65nm. These guys see "65nm" on a presentation slide, assume it must apply to every chip ATI is about to produce, and just produce "news" out of thin air. :wall:
R600 is 80nm. There will be a launch under NDA in late April or early May, with availability in mid-to-late May, and a lot of fuss being made about it at Computex.
03-16-2007, 02:35 PM
03-16-2007, 05:23 PM
Bull. The 65nm is for the laptop market. It clearly says so in the AMD slides.
Ye, thats old news, it was changed across the board due to heat and other technical problems (leakage, power consumption etc) as far as is out there.
NOW even the release date seems to have been delayed JUST today. In 16days is AMD-ATi Tech Day for the R600, and 6 weeks after that in early May its supposed to be announced: :mad:
Possible Benchmarks ;)
Revealed at CeBIT:
3DMark05 - 12k+
R600 - X2900XT:
3DMark05 - 17xxx
3DMark06 - 11xxx
03-16-2007, 11:44 PM
I like the numbers with no mention of what cpu :)
Guesstimates by the AMD crew ;)
03-17-2007, 09:01 AM
Now we just need games to play! Where're CRYSIS and UT3?!
WHOOPS! AMD presentation at CeBIT announces more details:
However, power consumption of the R600 series of GPUs is high. The consumption of the high-end model is expected to be higher than 250W, while for the mainstream version (RV610), it will be around 100W. This could be an issue for OEM PC manufacturers. A low-end model (RV630) for notebooks will consume approximately 25-35W.
03-17-2007, 12:03 PM
Other quotes from the CDRInfo report:
Bergman also said that AMD is preparing an 65nm version of the R600, that will feature a lower power consumption and will be used in the future DirectX 10-enables notebooks, possibly available later this year. Assuming that's an accurate statement it would explain where all of the obviously-incorrect "R600 is 65nm" rumours are coming from: there may be a 65nm version of R600 eventually, but not at launch.
The R600 could be considered as the second generation of the ATI Xenos GPU, which powers Microsoft's Xbox 360 game console. It features 48 Unified Shaders and fully supports DirectX 10 and Shader Model 4.0. If that figure of 48 unified shaders turns out to be correct, ATI is in really serious trouble.
NOW even the release date seems to have been delayed JUST today. In 16days is AMD-ATi Tech Day for the R600, and 6 weeks after that in early May its supposed to be announced: :mad:They've been saying "May" ever since the cancellation of the Amsterdam "Editors' Day" event. What's happend in the past few days is that one or two sites recycled news that was more than a month old, not realising it had been superseeded, and some people thought it was new news and that the release date had been brought forward. It was actually always May.
Oh boy. Just read the reports again according to the date of appearance, where they site latest info received (cross check it online) AFTER they knew that the "R600" was delayed till April/May (a month back in mid Feb they are the ones who reported it to us), and new information after CeBIT began is what made those sites report that end March is the new date when R600 (non-65nm) will hit launch - available to public by April-mid April latest, they were then saying.
NOW, because of other reports since then, they are confirming OEM partners already have it, and it is to be released possibly May AFTER its 65nm. It could mean that its only the 65nm that will release later in May or both, or the other versions (XL, XT) that will release later but not the XTX, no one can know because we don't have the info and are going off those reports simply, unless you own AMD. This is what they released from AMD insiders March 15th, which may still come true for one version: [See attachment]
Like I said before, they are only reports out there. Until we SEE an R600 of whatever caliber ourselves, released, or a trustable site who has grabbed one to show, who says news is ever true? It doesn't be, but just a part of curiosity and a peak into the ongoing happenings ;)
The R600 could be considered as the second generation of the ATI Xenos GPU ==> which powers Microsoft's Xbox 360 game console ==>> features 48 Unified Shaders and fully supports DirectX 10 and Shader Model 4.0.If that figure of 48 unified shaders turns out to be correct, ATI is in really serious trouble.Its the ATI Xenos GPU they are talking about.
R600: Biggest launch in GPU history (65nm)
We learned that the firm is inviting a ton of partners for a huge 3D-wide PR briefing - close to 200 journos will arrive at the press event and the plan is for each and every member of the press to get a taste of 65 nano chippery. :crazy:
R600 Ruby Demo Vid!!!
-Scenes: 2-2.5 million triangles
-Ruby: ~200K triangles, 128 morph targets for facial animation, ~200 bones for skinning animation.
Facial animation was done by filming a face of the real-world actress with a HDCam -> Motion
Tracking to extract facial animation data.
Ruby's face alone got layered with 15 different textures.
Snow simulation is processed entirely on a GPU and can be dynamically melted or amplified to
Increase the snow cover.
Realtime Fur simulation
Texture memory: 680 MB
And what you're telling me thats worse than what we have already? ;)
03-19-2007, 02:24 AM
I love how last year rumors were that R600 was going to be out long before the G80... Instead, Nvidia stepped it up and released the G80 at the end of Q3 06... At this rate, R600 isn't going to be released until Q3...
What happened is nVidia stepped on the gas for the 8800 but left the G84/G86 till late (peeing off many partners in return), while AMD just played around with the R600 and from Q4 2006 now its approaching Q2 2007, for a launch! Who knows, it may at the end of all this be a complete disaster for them if beaten by the 8800 Ultra which is releasing 17th April :lol:
Retail R600 80nm Pictured and benchmarked
Next, we got hold of some preliminary benchmarks figures of the R600 XTX card with core clock at 800MHz vs a GeForce 8800 GTX card. Using a Core 2 Extreme 2.93GHz processor on an Intel 975X board, the 3DMark06 score at 1600x1200 resolution is 97xx on the R600XTX compared to 95xx on the 8800GTX. Seems like R600XTX is running slightly faster than 8800GTX on the early release of drivers for R600.
Over at CeBIT, we overheard some production problems with R600. The yield at 65nm is very low at this point of time. It is projected by middle of April, AMD is only able to churn out some 20,000 Radeon X2900 XTX graphics cards and XT SKU might not even make it for the launch in May.
BTW, watch that Ruby video while you can because AMD are hunting it down! :lol:
OK. We have news that plans for 65nm have been totally scrapped!
They say its the solid truth.. I'm not so sure unless work on R700 is taking its place.
This would mean AMD/ATI already has the 80nm product needed to retail fully ready. Delay was due to 65nm attempt primarily.
03-21-2007, 11:36 AM
OK. We have news that plans for 65nm have been totally scrapped!So, let's see....
Over the course of this thread, according to Kab, the planned release date for R600 has gone from the end of March to mid-May (at the cancellation of the Amsterdam event), back to the end of March, and then back to May again. And ATI has gone from planning to release R600 on 80nm to planning to release it on 65nm and now back to an 80nm release again.
I can't help feeling that a single release date change from March to May and no change at all in the production process are both more likely scenarios. :)
The links... they said it and most of the online tech sites believed this BTW. All I did, is "link" latest news.
I don't see how there was a delay to May and then back to March again and now back to May. For one as I said, I didn't believe any of it. I'll believe it when I see it ;)
And unless you are an AMD insider (telling? :D) then there's no way of knowing what the actual date is, let alone by an outdated report of mid Feb. :) Because gosh, more than a billion online users are dying to know worldwide and don't have a clue yet!
More pictures of the R600, from a partner, and yes its 80nm and is ready (no drivers yet though):
It took a lot of convincing but we have finally been able to secure real photos of AMD’s upcoming Radeon X2900XTX graphics card based on their R600 core and codenamed Dragonshead 2.
It will come with 1GB of GDDR-4 memory but other items such as clock speeds have not been confirmed yet – more details here from our previous “AMD roadmap update on R600 - details confirmed! (http://www.tweaktown.com/news/7193/amd_roadmap_update_on_r600_details_confirmed/index.html)” news story. The only thing we seemed to screw up on was the launch date, which is looking more and more likely to be sometime in May, but nobody seems to be 100% sure at this stage.http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1069/amd_r600_retail_radeon_x2900xtx_better_photos_imme rge/index.html
AMD's R600 launch will be in Africa
AMD WILL launch its R600 product in Tunisia. We already told you that the launch will be the biggest ever, now we can disclose the location.
The launch will be from April 23rd to April 24th in city of Tunis, capital of Tunisia and will span across two days, showing AMD's complete next-generation line-up of mobile and desktop GPUs.
03-28-2007, 05:24 PM
Why Africa? The only reason I can think of: AMD will promote there 50 X 15 program?
50 % of world population with internet in 15 years.
Why Africa? The only reason I can think of: AMD will promote there 50 X 15 program?
50 % of world population with internet in 15 years.Massive parties, hotels, guests, journalists, bookings, lavish dinners.. slaves, cheap labor, cheap everything? :p
Fudzilla has managed to get 3DMark06 benches for the R600 on 8.35 driver.
We managedto get some early numbers from the R600 and this baby scores 11400+ in 3Dmark06. The test bed included Quad coreQX6700 Intel CPU and 2 GB memory.
The drivers are not final but the score is not that bad either. The score is very competitive to G80 score.
In our lab non overclocked Geforce 8800 GTX card scores 10600 while the overclocked 11100 with the overclocked G80 card. http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=345&Itemid=1
The R600 memory and core speculation:
R600, DDR3 card probably called Radeon X2900 series will come with the memory working at a modest 1600 MHz. Donít forget that R600 has a 512 bit memory controller and that it will have some impressive bandwidth.
GDDR4 version comes later and should have a clock even higher than 2000 MHz milestone. We already told you that ATI can clock R600 at 750 to 800 MHz.
R600 is of course an 80 nanometre chip and production should start in April time with some availability and launch scheduled for May. http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=333&Itemid=34
According to OCW from Chinese sources today, the R600, RV610 and RV630 are ALL further delayed to mid-end May release and the rest is just marketing dance in between.
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