Zippy Emacs GSM-6600 Uploaded

[jonnyGURU]

Just finished up and uploaded the review of the Zippy 600W "Gaming" power supply.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/PSU/GSM-6600P/

Feel free to discuss it here! :D

[dBTelos]

Good review :D Just read it.

Aesthetics (weight of 10%) is 9. The brushed aluminum finish is really unique. Unique is good, right? And the Emacs emblem is a nice touch. The cables are nicely sleeved, although not perfect.

Oh, my, god.... A Zippy got a 9 in Aesthetics, what is this world coming to.

[GalvanizedYankee]

What's to discuss?
I hope the mounting holes don't strip easily, being that it's casing is aluminum. I wish they had just polished and/or plated the nickeled steel housing. *shrugs* Yeah, I know, they say it's part of the cooling solution.

I was glad to see efficency over 75% and kissing 80%.
Mason at ZippyUSA did hint at offering a 2U unit for review:rolleyes: I think he was trying to be funny.:p

The price of Zippys?? They are still made in Taiwan not the PRC. Last year Zippy did open a factory for testing and packaging on the mainland, iirc.

[irev210]

As always, good review!

Look foward to seeing some power pc and cooling reviews soon.

[dBTelos]

As always, good review!

Look foward to seeing some power pc and cooling reviews soon.

And the Antec Trio review :rant:

[GalvanizedYankee]

As always, good review!

Look foward to seeing some power pc and cooling reviews soon.

IMHO, PCP&C is highly over rated. The Turbos are good but not better than Zippy/Emacs. The Turbos are filled with mid-range caps just as the inexpensive Enhance units are... brand? Teapo.

Zippys are filled with Nipponese electrolytic capacitors. ;)

Search for failed Turbos and you will find them. Search for failed Zippys? I have yet to find any.

[irev210]

IMHO, PCP&C is highly over rated. The Turbos are good but not better than Zippy/Emacs. The Turbos are filled with mid-range caps just as the inexpensive Enhance units are... brand? Teapo.

Zippys are filled with Nipponese electrolytic capacitors. ;)

Search for failed Turbos and you will find them. Search for failed Zippys? I have yet to find any.


yah i totally agree, but i'd still love to see some good testing done to the PPC.

Zippy is still my favorite brand. I think it is amazing that the 850w could hit 80% eff, and with 60A's on the 12v rail only have ~30mV of ripple.

The voltage regulation could have been a little tighter.

I really want to get a new 700W unit to jonny for testing, that unit is TOTALLY different than the 850W unit.

But yah, all of zippy power supplies seem to be top top top notch.

[jonnyGURU]

I agree that Zippy is "top notch" and also agree that PCP&C is "over rated," but I don't think PCP&C have an unusually high RMA. You can find PCP&C "problems" more frequently on the web because there are more units in circulation. And the failure they do have aren't necessarily because of Teapo caps.

[GalvanizedYankee]

Given a choice I would opt for Nipponese caps on or in any hardware.

In the last 6 months I have seen two Turbo 510 units posted over at AT suffering meltdown. No other hardware went with these PSUs. I have no idea how the cases were ventilated.

My point jon was not that Teapo caps are bad but that at the ellivated price point of high end PSUs...Why skimp to save <$10?:)

We have been down this path before. You know I have bought PSUs filled with Teapo(enhance) and feel OK about it. :cool:

[Oklahoma Wolf]

Search for failed Zippys? I have yet to find any.

I've seen a complaint or two, but at no time was the PSU at fault. My response to those having problems with a Zippy is usually to check everything else first - sure enough, not one case was the fault of the PSU.

[Bbq]

The thing I don't like about PCP&C, aside from the overpricing, is that they're loud. Sure, it "only" needs one fan, but when that fan is a boat prop 3 bladed delta screamer..

Come on doug, make us a 120mm version of the turbo cool.


Great review too Jonny. Questions:
If you don't have a grommet between the wires and the housing, how likely is it to slice the wire and cause a short?

What's that metal bracket in the back near the power switch?

When will you be sending it to me?

thanks.

[jonnyGURU]

My point jon was not that Teapo caps are bad but that at the ellivated price point of high end PSUs...Why skimp to save <$10?:)


Well, the other problem with getting the caps you want is simply availability and time frame. Believe it or not, the caps aren't always readily available in the diameter and value you want for a particular design. That doesn't mean you can't get them at all, but you'll have to wait. That's why a lot of times you'll see a mix of caps in a unit. But for the most part, the factory would rather just place one order with one company for all of their cap needs, and if they can get all of the caps from one source, then it's quicker and cheaper and less hassle.


If you don't have a grommet between the wires and the housing, how likely is it to slice the wire and cause a short?


Not sure. Some PSU's without such a grommet at least have the wires zip-tied to the side of the housing. This Zippy, I was able to pull the cables all of the way off to the side so I could take the pictures of the secondary caps.


What's that metal bracket in the back near the power switch?


http://www.jonnyguru.com/PSU/GSM-6600P/IMG_1278.JPG

[Super Nade]

The ripple is lower than the PWS-0056 (45mV vs 60 mV) in the hot box and the regulation is much better here. However, when compared to the Seasonic M12, the ripple is higher. What is the difference Jonny, in the filtering part of both units? Why wouldn't you rate the M12 as a better built unit than this one and move it to tier I in your classification? Also, can you tell me if reulation and ripple are completely de-linked from each other? On the Tagan you reviewed, there was almost no ripple, but the regulation was crap (caused in part by Mr.Jenpo?).

Its pretty nice that they are using carbon blackened aluminium for the casing. That is the exact same stuff I use in my lab to ensure good thermal conductivity but almost electrical insulator like behaviour.

Thanks for the review! :)

When will you be sending it to me?
Not in this lifetime! Go buy your own! :p :D

[jonnyGURU]

The ripple is lower than the PWS-0056 (45mV vs 60 mV) in the hot box and the regulation is much better here. However, when compared to the Seasonic M12, the ripple is higher. What is the difference Jonny, in the filtering part of both units? Why wouldn't you rate the M12 as a better built unit than this one and move it to tier I in your classification? Also, can you tell me if reulation and ripple are completely de-linked from each other? On the Tagan you reviewed, there was almost no ripple, but the regulation was crap (caused in part by Mr.Jenpo?).

Of course regulation and ripple are completely separate. Recap a Powmax. Is that going to make voltage regulation any better? ;)

And I put the Zippy over Seasonic on my tiered list under construction simply because the build quality of the Zippy is better. And despite the ripple, the Zippy still has far better regulation.

[madmat]

Very nice PSU, I can't wait to see what else tumbles out of the doors of Zippy in the future.

[Spectre]

Good to see another Zippy review on the intrawebnet :)